Posted on 04/25/2011 3:25:23 PM PDT by MamaDearest
Olga sez, "The U.S. Dept of State is proposing a new Biographical Questionnaire for passport applicants: proposed new Form DS-5513 asks for all addresses since birth; lifetime employment history, personal details of siblings; mother's addresses prior to your birth; any "religious ceremony" around time of birth, circumstances of birth including names (as well as addresses/phone numbers) of persons present, & more. Failure to answer can mean denial of passport, & govt reserves right to use this info for 'routine uses.'"
Update: Commenters note that this form is specifically intended in lieu of a birth certificate with a passport application; but as the FA suggests, the circumstances in which people unable to provide a birth certificate will be given this form (rather than the traditional bureaucratic investigation) are not spelled out; further, the form itself remains a Kafkaesque impossibility for most people to complete.
It seems likely that only some, not all, applicants will be required to fill out the new questionnaire, but no criteria have been made public for determining who will be subjected to these additional new written interrogatories. So if the passport examiner wants to deny your application, all they will have to do is give you the impossible new form to complete.
It's not clear from the supporting statement, statement of legal authorities, or regulatory assessment submitted by the State Department to the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) why declining to discuss one's siblings or to provide the phone number of your first supervisor when you were a teenager working at McDonalds would be a legitimate basis for denial of a passport to a U.S. citizen.
“Ive had 7 addresses in the past 10 years (so far). This form is ridiculous.”
I’m glad I have a passport already. I’m married to a pilot. I can’t even count all the places we’ve “lived.” I tried to count all the places after about 5 years of marriage and gave up when I hit 42. We’ve been married almost 17 years. Please tell me this is from the Onion.
They can Bloody well go look at my Orange File for the Goverenment Security Clearance and my Military 201 file!
Crumbs, MeganC.
That is very, very smart indeed.
A few months ago for the first time in my life, I misplaced by Panamanian ID (cedula), which is a necessary document to almost breath.
While I was getting it replaced, I was using my Panamanian passport for banking and other areas which require identification to include supermarkets and other places when using a credit card. I like the strictness of this. (The cedula is also needed for voting. No cedula, no voting.)
This from an administration that REFUSES to validate the birth certificate of our elected president.
Screw the TRANSPARENT emperor’s new clothes.
This from an administration that REFUSES to validate the birth certificate of our elected president.
Screw the TRANSPARENT emperor’s new clothes.
East Germany constructed a wall to keep citizens from leaving the Communist dictatorship.
In America, they erect a wall of red tape.
Hillary Clinton was in illegal posession of 900 FBI files. Now she wants to dig even deeper into everyone’s background. WHY?
Just monitor those who travel abroad to train with Al Qaeda and monitor those who overstay their travel visas in the US.
All else is an affront to American liberty. “Papers please!”
I wish I could, but this looks like it's for real.
Who does Obama want to lock inside the USA? Perhaps it is the wealthy, who are now being squeezed if they dare to leave permanently. After the new passport rules, the rich will be pulped if they stay or if they go.
Why in this day and age would someone not have a birth certificate or access to one?
I think someone who can’t prove who they really are should be put through the wringer. These questions are not much different than those of a background check for a law license or security clearance.
What if you already have a passport, but it expired a few years ago? They still want you to go through the STASI interrogation?
I’ve held clearances and am now a security manager in DOD - even Top Secret only makes you go back 10 years.
“(The cedula is also needed for voting. No cedula, no voting.)”
Wow, didn’t know Panama was such a racist coiuntry that wants nothing more than to disenfranchise women and minorities.
LOL!!!
Panama is paradise. I love living here.
Attempts to fill America with people who have no allegiance to our nation and turn it into a third world country such as from which they've come seem to be part of the "legacy" of Obama. Photos of Detroit have gone worldwide - democrat party pride in action.
New Passport Application asks for Insane Details
Snip: And little lies on the form could come back to haunt you, since, as the form explains, the "The DS-5513 may also be used as evidence in the prosecution of any individual who makes a false statement on the application...".
This law should be copied by all 50 states for purposes of what someone has to show to be on the presidential ballot — either a true birth certificate or this info in lieu of a true birth certificate.
How can it be easier to run for Prez than to get a U.S. passport?
Could you explain, please? I travel a lot, domestic and international, and haven't noticed any difference.
I know every address i’ve ever lived at without looking it up and I’m 74.
What airport do you depart from? At SeaTac I don't get questions, whether I'm using passport or driver's license. (I print boarding passes at home, no checked luggage.) I may chat briefly with the TSA agent checking ID, if I recognize him.
No one is holding their breath that our current resident president will release passport or any other personal information in our lifetime. Yet, supposedly intelligent people and powerful political foes are saying they "believe" what democrats and Obama tells them without substantative proof their beliefs are founded in truth and accuracy. What we, the people, often supply government in personal information, our president refuses to do. This president's portrait is beginning to take on shades of Dorian Gray (with lots of "gray" area info missing - there's just too much conflicting information missing or unanswered - such as the law license revocations for himself and Michelle).
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