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So now it is illegal to do something that MIGHT upset a Muslim?
Just WOW.
How can they complain about tying up traffic when Muslims are allowed to prostrate themselves several times a day in the street in front of a mosque?
The problems with the koran burning and the WTC Mosque
In all this argument of recent days, the most important fact of the matter has been obvious from the start, but is rarely spoken of by the media or the public.
Regarding the Florida koran burning, has anyone stepped back and listened to what people are saying in detail? The first thing a person will hear is how that Pastor has the Constitutional right to do what he is doing.
The next series of statements, however, are always the majority of statements made in these conversations, namely: It is the wrong thing to do, it is inciteful, it is a cult in Florida, muslims will hate us, it will endanger the troops, and, most importantly for this conversation: we are not at war against a religion, but extremists of that religion.
This is important because of the islamic world’s reaction to this Florida Pastor; namely, that the islamic world immediately protested the planned koran burning by condemning the entire country of the United States and marched and chanted promoting our deaths to cries of “DEATH TO AMERICA!”
The response by virtually all American politicians has been an apologetic tone, one where they immediately call for the koran burning to stop, observations that it IS inciteful and that the threats to Americans at home and American Troops abroad are not acceptable and that the safety of the American public are paramount in this case.
Their tone has been to cower in fear at these threats. Not one politician has stepped forward and exclaimed, “Islam is not being attacked by an entire country or an entire religion, Islam is only being attacked by a radical. Islam needs to remember we are not all against Islam and threats to our safety are wrong and inciteful and hate filled.”
Not one. They cower to the islamic world, refuse to hold them to the same standard of behavior as they insist from their own people, refuse to insist that the Pastor in Florida is an anomaly and that the United States is no threat to islam.
What they did was bow in submission to the sensitivities of the islamic world and deny the Florida Pastor his civil rights to speak out like an American.
The islamic world will not notice. They will riot anyways. It is identical to the cartoonists in Denmark. All it took was one cartoonist to make a cartoon of Muhammad and the entire islamic world was in the streets and threatening to kill anyone who makes a cartoon of Muhammad.
Theo Van Gogh made a movie about this islamic submission in Holland, and they killed him for making the movie.
The Florida Koran burning case is quite similar to the Ground Zero mosque case with some significant differences. In Florida, the Pastor must stop his koran burning or there will be violence across the globe, and in fact, even if he does stop, there will be violence across the globe due to him stating he wanted to burn korans. In New York City, the Imam who wants to build a mosque 2 blocks away from Ground Zero, he said on CNN that if we move the mosque or deny it’s construction, there will be violence across the globe.
In both cases, if we do not submit to islamic sensitivities, there will be violence across the globe, in fact, even if we do submit to islamic sensitivities, there will most likely be violence anyways due to the fact that we spoke of those things.
Free speech is threatened in Florida, and a new twist is happening in New York City, something that Israel has seen does not work, and that is LAND FOR PEACE.
The Ground Zero mosque is about LAND FOR PEACE. If we give islam the land to make a mosque, there will be peace. If we do not give islam the land, there will be violence.
Think this through people. In both of these cases, neither has anything to do with the original concerns people expressed. It is solely about whether we submit to islamic sensitivities or have violence.
It is about Islamic blackmail of the United States.
James Bancroft USMC 1977-1981
Same community where the public high school holds football practice at midnight to accommodate Muslims and Ramadan.
A Dearborn jury sided with prosecutors, ruling that Terry Jones and Wayne Sapp would breach the peace if they rallied at the Islamic Center of America in Dearborn. They were briefly jailed for refusing to post a bond.
This is where she won a lawsuit to run bus ads offering help to Muslims in fear of their lives.
Inciting violence means directing people TO violence, not being willing to suffer from people’s violence to YOU!
I am assuming this will be appealed? Anybody know?
WOnder if they would restrain muslims for the same kinds of protests.
Seriously doubt it. They’d probably demand the church stop holding services.
This is a repeat of the Illinois Nazis v. Skokie from the 70’s. Just replace religion of peace with Holocaust survivors in that case. It’s basic constitutional law that even a 2nd year law student would know.
It’s a prior restraint on free speech and I hope Dearborn has a good municipal insurance policy because they are going to owe Pastor Jones a lot of money when this gets overturned. For once I actually agree with the ACLU (and I can’t believe I’m saying that.)
Lawsuit City . . . some nice $$$ for deprivation of Constitutional rights
This is really unbelievable.
The two groups that the left-wing will want to lock you up if you speak against them are Islamists and homosexual perverts.
Perverts, terrorists and democrats... perfect together.. oh my!
Dearbornistan
Well Whitey, White Folk ,Cracker,WhiteBread,White Devil, White People, Peckerwood, take your pick of the names we have been given. I have heard many of you ask were is our Rev Jackson were is our Rev Al. Well here He is at least he is making a stand and a pretty dam good one too, are you going to follow him or lie back down like Sheep and keep taking this crap? What have We done lately.
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The words "Quran-burning" will appear in every MSM report on this.
Most media consumers it will conclude that the pastor was planning to start a fire outside of a mosque and rationalize it away.