Posted on 04/21/2011 7:35:08 AM PDT by Pyro7480
Germany has warned the conservative Hungarian government that its new constitution, passed by parliament on Monday (18 April), is not compatible with European Union values.
"We are observing the developments in Hungary with great attention and some worry," German deputy foreign minister Werner Hoyer said in an emailed statement. "The media law adopted at the start of the year shows an attitude towards fundamental rights which - despite some amendments - is hardly compatible with European Union values."
...The Hungarian parliament approved the document 262 votes to 44, with the Socialist and green parties boycotting the vote and the far-right Jobbik voting against it....
The European Commission for its part has washed its hands of the matter, telling EUobserver that the constitution is for Hungarians to decide and that the country remains a constitutional democracy....
The new text, heavy with references to Christianity, protects the life of a foetus "from conception" and preserves "the institution of marriage between man and woman".
(Excerpt) Read more at euobserver.com ...
Pecos’ analogy is valid. Germany has zero moral authority to demand the murder of Hungarian pre-born or the subversion of Hungarian marriage, despite anything the EU claims as its “values.”
The linked article says nothing about government henchmen overseeing the media. What is your source?
Well, mewykwistmas, you are only something less than half-right.
From the article your referenced it is clear that the “private” pension accounts were NOT like our “401k” plans, and were in fact more like “Fannie and Freddie” accounts, with Hungarian national government guarantees on the performance of the funds.
As it is, the “private pension” accounts brought back into the fold of the national pension system will remain individual accounts and be inheritable to the individual’s spouse.
Altogether it seems more like a “national accounting” change with not much really changing in what will go into the accounts, but the “national deficit” image is altered, for the benefit of the international financiers, by the inclusion of the “private pension” account balances back on the “reserves” side of the national government’s ledger. Given the guarantees that the national government had in place for those accounts all along, it may be less of a change than it would have been in an American context.
Hopefully, Hungarian Patriots are “cleansing” the last remnants of their internal communist problem...
Good hunting, mates..
The linked article says nothing about government henchmen overseeing the media. What is your source?The article is quoting the German deputy foreign minister Werner Hoyer, who specifically criticized the new media law. Just google for “Hungary new media law” and you will find as many sources as you want.
Fascists, Communists, Socialists, Greens...all the same.
I’m not pleased with it, but on the other hand, it’s a little odd to hear state-controlled media criticizing Hungary’s plan to monitor the media for terrorist threats. There is no free media in Europe. Try criticizing female circumcision in Germany, and just see how fast it takes the jack boots to come to your door.
Actually, I’m not sure I’m even displeased with the law. It sounds like the gripes are coming from the socialist, state-dependent news media who are upset that the Hungarian version of NPR might be slightly more beholden to the democratic government than to socialist elite.
“Pecos’ analogy is valid. Germany has zero moral authority to demand the murder of Hungarian pre-born or the subversion of Hungarian marriage, despite anything the EU claims as its “values.””
If you like the city life, you’ll like Budapest. Also, south of there, Lake Balaton is one of the finest inland lake recreation areas on the continent. It gets crowded with Germans, though.
“...with little more than their bare hands...”
Never underestimate the power of a good set of balls and a few well-placed Molotov cocktails...
The EU is doomed to failure because it tries to do too much. It is forcing “one size fits all” rulings on all its member nations, in efect micromanagement by a bunch of clueless bureaucrats in Brussels who think they know everything. The EU would work if it were an organization that made trade between member nations easier, and yes to the point of normalization of standards (technical and other product standards) to facilitate competition. But it goes as far as lawmaking and out of control regulation of local affairs with again “one size fits all cookie cutters”. Thus the rise in nationalist groups, some of them not politically right as we here know what the true right is (free market economics, economic and political freedom, etc.). The member states should be left to manage their own local decision making, much like the United States SHOULD be operating.
And one more thing...
All those Soviet armored vehicles had soft, squishy pink centers.
Gasoline and fire are wonderful companions for the oppressed.
Amen!
We are proud of the fact that our King Stephen, the Saintly Patron of the Hungarian State for a thousand years had built a secure foundation and placed our Fatherland in the line of Christian Europe.And Germany says Germany has warned the conservative Hungarian government that its new constitution, passed by parliament on Monday (18 April), is not compatible with European Union values.We recognize the role of Christianity in the persistence of the Nation.
errr.. Hoyer, what do you think Germania was founded on? Not EU values but Christian values. What an ignorant person.
Maybe we can also toss in Slovakia. Also when the Spanish and Portuguese wake up and see the deep sh*te that socialism and anti-religion has caused in their countries....
The EU is France with Germany providing the money. Once the two realize there is no benefit, then bye-bye...
there is no procedure or process for leaving. That is what my Polish friends objected to when they voted against Poland joining. The EU has no process or even hint of process for leaving the EU. Hungary cannot leave without getting a whole new process put in place.
I would prefer an Eastern European union of Lithuania-Poland-Slovakia-Hungary-Croatia-Bulgaria-Romania-Western Ukraine and maybe Belarus, but that's a pipe-dream
Yet remember that the conservative elected politicians took a cut in salaries and cut the salaries of government employees and cut many public-sector jobs.
Hungary is a small country of 9 million and they were in deep doo-doo but they wanted to get themselves out of their deep socialist hole without resorting to bankruptcy. Also note that they still retain their own currency the Forint instead of the euro.
Taking the retirement funds was no-alternative way to doing this.
for example, the Basques and Catalonians are across France and Spain, the people in Brittany speak a Celtic language related to Welsh, the people of Alsace and Lorraine are frenchified Allemagnais Germanics, the Polabians are Germanised Slavs, the Balkans are filled with mixed ethnicities etc.
And the EU has enabled entities that cross borders like in South Tyrol -- diffusing a lot of tensions.
Also the chances of a European war are also dissipated by the EU.
However I agree that that is where the EU should end. No president of the EU.
Instead of this, the EU should be replaced with Christendom.
pnh - read my post above that there is no procedure to leave.
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