Posted on 04/20/2011 8:08:52 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
'A deep-rooted hatred of the British': How Israelis 'armed junta' in Falklands conflict
Israel secretly provided arms and supplies to Argentina during the Falklands conflict, according to revelations in a new book.
Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin had such a deep-rooted hatred of the British that the Jewish state covertly became the biggest supplier of military equipment to the Argentine military junta.
Gas masks, radar alert systems, air-to-air missiles and fuel tanks for fighter bombers were sent from Tel Aviv to arm General Galtieri’s forces. The most audacious deal involved supplying 23 French-built fighter aircraft – Mirage IIICs – which were camouflaged with the insignia of Peru. But they arrived after the war was over.
Britain, under Margaret Thatcher, retook the Falkland Islands in June 1982, two and a half months after Argentina invaded. Some 255 British servicemen, more than 650 Argentines and three islanders were killed.
Although it was well known at the time that France was supplying missiles to Argentina – most infamously the Exocet missiles used to sink HMS Sheffield with the loss of 20 crew – Israel’s involvement went unnoticed.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Sinking an enemy cruiser is no war crime. It’s war.
"could be sunk" applied to any ship considered a threat to the task force
Inside the Total (how often that word is ommitted) Exclusion Zone, any non British ship would be considered a threat automatically.
Not sure how legal any of this would have been, or how legal what happened was, seeing as how neither Argentina nor Britain was in a declared state of war when they were sinking each others ships and killing each other's servicemen...
It is the British who hate PM Begin for besting them in Mandate Palestine. The British never fail to call PM Begin a “terrorist.”
Because he was one.
Sorry, but thats the truth.
Sounds like Media analysis from Soros,Inc.
Begin was less of a terrorist than the folks who forcibly stopped ships with Jewish refugees and made Arab appeasement a religion.
Bret Stephen’s Eye on the Media: Fear and loathing at ‘The Economist’
Internet Jerusalem Post | Jul. 4, 2002 | Bret Stephen’s
Posted on 07/04/2002 6:26:21 PM PDT by Phil V.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/711016/posts
That was my point also, naval law can not be applied partially. Following logic that it was war, London could nuke Buenos Aires.
Britain had every right to declare war on Argentina, but did not bother.
I agree that states act in their own interest. So why accuse Israel of selling arms to anyone? There was no international arms embargo against Argentina. States act thuggish if they break the laws, treaties and agreements they ratified. It was ok for France to try to prevent Argentina from purchasing Exocet from third countries. But it was thuggish to provide data of Exocet sold to Argentina to Britain.
Bollocks.
Whatever.
Are you seriously suggesting that the Irgun and Stern gangs were not terrorists?. That their activities like the King David hotel bombing or the torture and murder of two British soldiers (sgts Martin and Paice), the assassination of Count Bernadotte (who SAVED thousands of Jews in ww2) and numerous other acts werent terrorism?.
The Irgun and Stern gangs were terrorists and as Irgun head Menachim Begin WAS a terrorist who eventually gave up violence. Just like Gerry Adams or Martin McGuinness in Northern Ireland. Would you argue they werent terrorists and the IRA werent a terrorist group, then?.....
Why in right-leaning America is there this dislike and even refusal to admit that once, briefly, Jews were terrorists and as brutal and zealotous as the rest of humanity?. It as if people truly think that gods chosen people CANT be guilty of such crimes.
As to trying to argue that somehow what Begin/Irgun/Stern did is somehow justifiable is frankly disgusting. By your twisted logic, you could justify Oklahoma and even Sept 11th...
Did the British make errors in Palestine?. Yes. (America error free over Jewish Palestine......hmmm I think not....)
But the British were the piggy in the middle of a thankless task between two sides that hated and still hate each other.
The British were the ones who were bombed and murdered in Palestine and the Middle East by both Arab and Jew.
Instead of berating Britain for the last 65 years, people should put themselves in our shoes. WE declared a Jewish homeland in 1917, WE saved the Jews in Europe by fighting the evil of Nazism and Nazi antisemitism, WE liberated Belsen. WE had our young men murdered and bombed and British civilians by Jewish terrorists, yet we are pilloried because of foreign policy decisions we made in genuine good faith (if in error).
NONE of what Britain did 1917-1948 over Palestine justifies what Begin and his murdering little group(s) did.
The British didn’t lose thousands to save Jews alone- You know that as well as I do. That’s how it has always been. About what constitutes terrorism?? Did the British turn back or allow Jewish refugees in?? Did they do everything to prevent Arab atrocities against settlers?
About being in the middle of a thankless task, I don’t think anybody asked to be there. Britain made its decisions in its interests, good or bad faith be damned.
I’d suggest you read Israeli historian Tom Segev’s One Palestine Complete, which might correct your ignorant, venomous diatribe against Britain.
If anything, Britain’s coddling of the Jews is at the root of a lot of the problems in the Middle East today — the Palestinians have some justification in feeling they were betrayed.
3/4 of “Palestine” is Jew-Free Jordan. Gaza is safely Jew free. Actual “Palestinians” owned property and didn’t leave. (Israeli Arabs own more private land than Jews). On the other hand, the recent immigrants from Syria, Egypt, Circassia/Adyge, Bosnia ... had every reason to help the invading Arab armies in 1948 and steal land, newly fertilized with the blood of Jews. But by all means, start quoting a book by a communist like Segev.
Why accuse Israel of selling arms? I can't think of any reason other than to belittle Israel and try and drive a wedge between them and Britain, (or the west in general). You do realise, incidentally, that it is an Argentinian who is making these claims, don't you? The report is a British newspaper article on a book by an Argentinian.
I don't understand your point about data on exocet. What data? What did France give Britain that they didnt know already?
France provided ECM codes for Exocet. It was known at the time it happened, but later reported in British press, e.g. in The Daily Telegraph.
Codes were used to instruct Exocet to see British carriers as friendly naval vessels.
Later, the story was circulated by the French that France was blackmailed by the British to surrender codes allegedly, Margaret Thatchore threatened to nuke Argentina if Mitterrand refuse to surrender codes. Mitterrand was allegedly so upset about this shameful act that he went to see psychotherapist.
I do not believe in this blackmail story, I guess any exuse is better than admitting what they actually did.
Argentina only had half a dozen exocet missiles. They launched five and scored three hits, sinking two ships. Of the two that fired that missed, one (at least) was decoyed by a chaff discharge. That doesn't sound to me like a knowledge of "ECM codes" was too effective in stopping them.
I don't think it is possible to instruct exocet to see carriers (specifically) as friendly naval vessels. Exocet doesn't have a copy of "Jane's fighting ships" in its tiny computer brain. The only thing you could do would be to mark large ships as friendlies - but then why was one of the vessels sunk "Atlandic Conveyor", which is as big as a British Carrier?
I think this is disinformation.
The British were a thousand times more pro-Arab Muslim than they were pro-Jewish. Go read up on some history. All those Jews killed in WW2...you obviously don’t care that Israel resulted from that. The remaining European Jews decided to get the hell out and live in Israel. Where exactly are Jews supposed to live?
How about all those millions of Muslims invading and swamping Europe. How does that fit into your scheme? It seems that Muslims can live and invade anywhere they want. They can colonize Europe one neighborhood at a time
In your Great Britain the Muslims are god's chosen people. You have chosen to allow them to invade you. You should be a lot more worried about that
Any Irgun terrorism pales in comparison to the WW2 terrorism that murdered six million Jews
If you were a Jew who survived this European Holocaust you would be very motivated to establish a homeland where no one could F with you again.
So the Jews engaged in some minor anti British terror to establish Israel and the British lost a lot of face when they had to bail out. In fact many Brits have never gotten over what those uppity Jews did
Brits were trying to prevent the establishment of Israel because of colossal English oil interests in the Arab Muslim countries. This is how the Brits placated the Muslims. That kindness is now returned by the hordes of Muslims invading your green isles.
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