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To: the scotsman

Begin was less of a terrorist than the folks who forcibly stopped ships with Jewish refugees and made Arab appeasement a religion.


47 posted on 04/22/2011 9:45:39 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Bollocks.


50 posted on 04/22/2011 4:24:32 PM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Are you seriously suggesting that the Irgun and Stern gangs were not terrorists?. That their activities like the King David hotel bombing or the torture and murder of two British soldiers (sgts Martin and Paice), the assassination of Count Bernadotte (who SAVED thousands of Jews in ww2) and numerous other acts werent terrorism?.

The Irgun and Stern gangs were terrorists and as Irgun head Menachim Begin WAS a terrorist who eventually gave up violence. Just like Gerry Adams or Martin McGuinness in Northern Ireland. Would you argue they werent terrorists and the IRA werent a terrorist group, then?.....

Why in right-leaning America is there this dislike and even refusal to admit that once, briefly, Jews were terrorists and as brutal and zealotous as the rest of humanity?. It as if people truly think that gods chosen people CANT be guilty of such crimes.

As to trying to argue that somehow what Begin/Irgun/Stern did is somehow justifiable is frankly disgusting. By your twisted logic, you could justify Oklahoma and even Sept 11th...

Did the British make errors in Palestine?. Yes. (America error free over Jewish Palestine......hmmm I think not....)

But the British were the piggy in the middle of a thankless task between two sides that hated and still hate each other.
The British were the ones who were bombed and murdered in Palestine and the Middle East by both Arab and Jew.

Instead of berating Britain for the last 65 years, people should put themselves in our shoes. WE declared a Jewish homeland in 1917, WE saved the Jews in Europe by fighting the evil of Nazism and Nazi antisemitism, WE liberated Belsen. WE had our young men murdered and bombed and British civilians by Jewish terrorists, yet we are pilloried because of foreign policy decisions we made in genuine good faith (if in error).

NONE of what Britain did 1917-1948 over Palestine justifies what Begin and his murdering little group(s) did.


52 posted on 04/23/2011 4:49:00 AM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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