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ACLU: Michigan cops stealing drivers' phone data
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20055431-1.html#ixzz1K1YGQb9t ^

Posted on 04/19/2011 8:35:22 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear



The Michigan State Police have started using handheld machines called "extraction devices" to download personal information from motorists they pull over, even if they're not suspected of any crime. Naturally, the ACLU has a problem with this.

The devices, sold by a company called Cellebrite, can download text messages, photos, video, and even GPS data from most brands of cell phones. The handheld machines have various interfaces to work with different models and can even bypass security passwords and access some information.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; constitution; cops; corruption; crime; donttreadonme; donutwatch; govtabuse; mi; michigan; police; tyranny; unlawful
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I wonder how fast this will spread... The TSA will probably be outside the grocery store next.
1 posted on 04/19/2011 8:35:25 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: ShadowAce

Have you seen this?


2 posted on 04/19/2011 8:37:30 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Minus_The_Bear

What type of dope would hand over their phone to the cops without a warrant? Cops can ask to search your trunk, but you don’t have to let them. Seems to me the place to fight this is in court between the victims and the obviously corrupt police. Class action or otherwise.


3 posted on 04/19/2011 8:42:48 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Minus_The_Bear


Cellebrite's UME-36Pro, Universal Memory Exchanger, is a professional, stand-alone phone memory transfer and backup solution that transfers all forms of content, including pictures, videos, ringtones, SMS, as well as phonebook contact data between a wide range of mobile phones, smart phones and PDAs. The UME-36Pro was designed with the needs of the mobile phone industry in mind. Rugged and easy to use, the UME-36Pro promises mobile communication service providers years of service thanks to Cellebrite's constant firmware updates that keep the UME-36Pro current with the latest cellular phone models. The UME-36Pro operates with the ease, speed and reliability that customers have come to expect from Cellebrite.

MAIN FEATURES AND CAPABILITIES

Based on Windows CE

Supports transfer of content across all mobile handset technologies - GSM, CDMA, UMTS, 3G, TDMA, IDEN and more

Transfer of phones internal memory and SIM card content

Transfer of phonebooks, pictures, videos, ring-tones, and SMS

Supports multiple language encodings

Available connectivity: USB, Serial, IrDA and Bluetooth connections to phones

Transfer, backup and restore of mobile phone content

Supports Symbian™, Microsoft Mobile™ Palm™, and BlackBerry™ operating systems

Integrated SIM/Smart Card reader

Integrated PC connection allowing content backup and management

Stand-alone device or an integrated PC solution

User-friendly and self-explanatory

Easily upgraded through software file downloads


4 posted on 04/19/2011 8:43:43 PM PDT by WaterBoard
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To: Minus_The_Bear

As much as I normally despise the ACLU...

“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”

I can’t imagine what kind of legal argument the cops could make to support scan and taking the information from a cell phone during a routine stop. Maybe I’m a little hung up on the words “secure... unreasonable... papers and effects... and probable cause.” Maybe I’m not seeing something here.

In any case, this goes along with the idea that you can’t film or record a police office doing his job. The erosion of liberty on so many levels is scary. What next... driving down the street mining data from open wireless portals?


5 posted on 04/19/2011 8:45:26 PM PDT by redpoll
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"What next... driving down the street mining data from open wireless portals?"

They're probably already doing THAT...

6 posted on 04/19/2011 8:55:15 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Unlike the West, the Islamic world is serious.)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Do the phones have to be on for this device to steal the information? What’s going to stop them from going by our houses and snooping on us?


7 posted on 04/19/2011 9:04:57 PM PDT by madison10 (Do not fret because of evil men or be envious of those who do wrong..)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

The TSA’ll throw in a free grope as well..


8 posted on 04/19/2011 9:07:38 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Lazlo in PA

The type that want to “Get along” with the cops more than defend their rights.
The type that are willing to surrender their rights as they “Have nothing to hide”.
The type who think “Only criminals try to demand privacy rights”.
The type that take their clue from current television programming, which routinely portrays the cops as always being “Right” even when they flagrantly abuse their authority via warrant-less searches, intimidation, torture, etc.

People’s civil rights are violated by “Our” LE routinely.
For a quick example, recall all the “DUI checkpoint’s” which assume driver guilt.
Such violations rarel gets any notice by the media unless they result in a “Technicality” letting some one off for a charge the media/DA insist they were actually guilty of.


9 posted on 04/19/2011 9:07:48 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition (Loyal Sedition, often described as "To the right of Attila The Hun"!)
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To: goodnesswins; redpoll

“’What next... driving down the street mining data from open wireless portals?’
‘They’re probably already doing THAT...’”

GOOGLE already is...


10 posted on 04/19/2011 9:09:42 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: JDW11235

Yes, but are the State Police doing it without a warrant? Not that anyone cares anymore...


11 posted on 04/19/2011 9:11:40 PM PDT by madison10 (Do not fret because of evil men or be envious of those who do wrong..)
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To: redpoll
"What next... driving down the street mining data from open wireless portals?"

Google already did that for their Google Maps project. They sniffed out available wifi connections. They said they didn't keep any data. But do you believe them? The US Government doesn't care because Google is a huge contributor to Obama... Huge backlash in Germany though. Amazing that Microsoft was brought up for anti-trust for so much less.
12 posted on 04/19/2011 9:14:25 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Does the device have to be physically hooked up to the phone? If so, simply refuse to allow the officer to have the phone or deny having one.


13 posted on 04/19/2011 9:17:19 PM PDT by Boiling point (Beck / Palin 2012)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

“Sorry officer, I don’t HAVE a cell phone!”

4th Amendment Protection against unreasonable search and seizure!!!

Turn it OFF put it away and he can’t ask for (or demand) it!

Get a warrant officer!


14 posted on 04/19/2011 9:18:54 PM PDT by G Larry
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To: G Larry; Boiling point

“Sorry officer, I don’t HAVE a cell phone!”

Then you’ll be charged with a myriad of charges depending on locality ranging from “obstruction of justice,” “lying to an officer,” and probably assault (Since swearing now constitutes assault, go figure, like the Olive Garden, with “Law Enforcement” officers, “the possibilities are endless” (TM)).


15 posted on 04/19/2011 9:23:18 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Is there really any proof the cops are using this in routine traffic stops?

This sounds like a typical ACLU over-reach to stop an “office tool” from being used against those arrested and brought in on charges.


16 posted on 04/19/2011 9:25:02 PM PDT by G Larry
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To: madison10

I dunno what the police are capable of anymore. Since the feds already have devices that can listen to conversations inside of buildings, using lasers which measure the vibrations of a window pane, and translate to speech, and devices that can view inside of vehicles and homes, (similar to the TSA to our bodies) and use them at sporting events, and since they frequently check phone records without warrants (I read an Article saying Sprint provided an access that requires no warrants and is used so many millions of times per year, I wanna say it was 40 million), I’m sure some of the wireless information is being monitored at any given time. But who knows.


17 posted on 04/19/2011 9:27:08 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

C,mon. We all know the Bible here. It pretty clearly states that in the end times there won’t be any privacy. We are seeing it now. Our government has built weapons that won’t kill but will incapacitate people. In the name of compassion? No, so that you can be put to a test. Who will you be loyal to? The State or your family. It’s not oomplicated.


18 posted on 04/19/2011 9:49:07 PM PDT by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Just enforcing the law right? Where are all of you Sheriff J types now? This is what happens when you let a police state run amok. After 9/11 we should not have allowed the feds to take over an increasingly larger role in security. Once you break that threshold and scare people you lose your freedoms.


19 posted on 04/19/2011 10:16:17 PM PDT by Stayfrosty
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To: WaterBoard

Another factoid from the story is that the MI police apparently have a whopping five of these in the entire state. It would seem to follow that a phone would need to be formally seized to be thus read in most traffic cases.

Seems that more serious questions would arise from using what is marketed as a cell phone provider gadget for the ease of providing customer service (like for exchanges or upgrades of old phones), in a legal and evidence capacity. Is the device legally certified to get everything right? It, and any police action taken relying on it, could suffer in court that way much as uncalibrated breathalyzers do.


20 posted on 04/19/2011 10:59:20 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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