Posted on 04/19/2011 7:00:05 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
With Donald Trump's headline-grabbing call for our President to release his birth certificate, more and more people are discussing the circumstances of Obama's birth. Although it seems likely that Obama is hiding something -- the date of birth, the place, the father -- it is highly unlikely that he is concealing a Kenyan nativity.
The President's mother, Ann Dunham and father, Barack Obama, Sr., supposedly met in a Russian language class at the University of Hawaii. The time was late September, 1960. For the official birth date of August 4, 1961 to work, and assuming that Ann carried her baby for a full term, she would have to have been impregnated sometime in mid November, 1960.
Continuing with the official story, Obama's parents were supposedly married February 2, 1961, on the island of Maui when Ann was approximately 2 ½ months pregnant. It is at this point that we lose track of the President's mother. She is not enrolled at the University of Hawaii. No one sees her (with the possible exception of self appointed best friend Neil Abercrombie, current Governor of Hawaii), and no one can vouch for her whereabouts. That is not the case, however, with Obama's father, Barack Obama, Sr.
Gregg Takiyama, Director of Community and Government Affairs at the University of Hawaii, Manoa campus, has supplied the following information on Obama Sr.'s school attendance: Dates of attendance: Fall 1959 - Spring 1962; Degree awarded: BA - Economics, Spring 1962. Classes were held throughout the year: Fall = August-Dec.; Spring = Jan.-May; Summer = May-Aug.
Apparently, Obama Sr., once he began his Hawaiian education in 1959, never took a break in his studies until he graduated in May of 1962. This is further corroborated in a letter he wrote after graduation on May 29 to his sponsor in Kenya, Tom Mboya. In it, he brags about how fast he finished his studies:
"As you know I have been able to finish my B.A. (hon.) degree and done my M.A. within three years only as contrasted to the normal four years for a B.A. and one to two years for M.A. I have therefore been able to cut on at least two years for my B.A. and Masters." Obviously, Obama Sr. was a serious student.
In the same letter, Obama Sr. says to Mboya: "...this is the time when I feel I should thank you for the help which you gave me when I was coming here." Had Obama Sr. returned to Kenya for the birth of his baby he undoubtedly would have contacted his sponsor. Yet the letter seems to indicate that this is the first time he has thanked or been in touch with Mboya since his arrival in Hawaii in 1959.
Then there are the difficulties of a trip to Kenya in 1961: the costs and the logistics. In an article in the Honolulu Star-Bulletin, September 19, 1959, Shurei Hirozawa wrote of Barack Obama Sr.'s arrival in Hawaii: "The money he saved will only stretch out for two semesters or less because of the high cost of living in Hawaii, he found out. He'll work, he says, and probably apply for a scholarship." Obama Sr. had no money. He certainly wouldn't have had the money for two airplane tickets to Kenya. If that trip took place, Ann's parents would have to have paid the fare.
Since we know Obama Sr. was continually enrolled year round at the University of Hawaii, and he finished in three years' time what would normally take 5 years, any break in his studies would have necessarily been short. Any trip to Kenya would have to have been by air, as going by sea would have taken weeks, if not months.
For the birth to have taken place in Kenya, Ann would have been very pregnant and very near her delivery date when the trip was made. The distance between Honolulu and Nairobi, Kenya is approximately 10,700 miles. In 1961 there would not have been any direct flights, necessitating several stops and perhaps several overnight layovers.
We would then have the spectacle of an 18 year-old first time mother, days away from delivery, leaving the comfort and surroundings of her parents' home (with the blessing of her parents), to embark on a several day exhausting journey, only to arrive in a very third world country to deliver her baby in the primitive medical facilities common in the Africa of 1961. None of this makes sense.
When Obama Sr. was preparing to leave Hawaii for Harvard in June of 1962, he was interviewed by John Griffin of the Honolulu Advertiser. Griffin wrote: "Obama who has been away from Kenya for seven years, said he plans to go home after finishing at Harvard." There is no indication that while he was in Hawaii, Obama Sr. ever returned to his native Kenya, let alone with a pregnant wife in tow.
Finally, in the same letter of May 29, 1962 to sponsor Mboya, it is interesting to note what Obama Sr. had to say about his wife, no, not Ann, but rather his wife in Kenya: "I have enjoyed my stay here, but I will be accelerating my coming home as much as I can. You know my wife is in Nairobi there and I would really appreciate any help you may give her. She is staying with her brother Mr. Wilson Odiawo."
Even though the marriage practices of Kenya were somewhat more relaxed than those of the United States, one has to wonder if Obama Sr. would take his pregnant American wife back to Nairobi where his African wife was waiting for him and if under those circumstances, Ann would consent to go.
The facts we know about Obama Sr. from his school records, newspaper articles, and his own letter to Mboya strongly argue that once he arrived in Hawaii, he never left. If Obama Sr., the father, never traveled to Kenya it would follow that Ann, the mother, never did either.
Of all the uncertainties of our President's first year, whether or not he was born in Kenya should not be one of them.
hahahaha
cute
Actually, I think it would be much more useful to learn Manderin than French.
My son had to make the choice last year to learn French or Spanish in middle school.
Given the two choices I told him to go with Spanish.
However, I would have gone with Manderine if that was available.
There’s a lot of “supposedly”s in the story.
Lee Harvey Oswald
“There is one thing that makes me believe he was born in Kenya.... and that is the AP article that clearly states that he was born there.”
The accuracy of anything written by AP is sometimes as high as 40%.
When was this? (And please don't link to that "obamasnippets.com" cut and paste job.)
Something like him could only be spawned from a petri dish.
He could have been hatched!
Obama is an unknown because he wants it that way. It’s much more difficult to dig up dirt on a political candidate with no known history than it is on a candidate whose life has been an open book. This way, there won’t be any comparison of college GPAs, no service records (he never served), not even any record of any writing as the editor of Harvard Law Review.
When you think about it, you realize the reason this cover up was necessary, every single person who did come forward from Obama’s past created a problem for him. His sister stated that their whole family were Muslims and that everyone that they knew in Indonesia were Muslims. The few former classmates recalled him going to Muslim prayers with them. These people were bragging about the fact that Obama had been one of them, a Muslim.
Then at Occidental, Obama said that he sought out other politically active Blacks and minorities and made a point of not mixing with Whites (he didn’t say it quite that way). What was popular with politically active Blacks in the eighties? The Black Muslim cult. All the big named Blacks were adopting Muslim names, and so did Obama. Barry Soetoro became Barack Obama. How do you think a discussion of that would fit into Barry’s political campaign?
There were just too many things in Barry’s past to let any of it be discussed openly, so Bill Ayers wrote a book, supposedly detailing the story of Obama’s life and put all the inconvenient facts off limits, sealed them off as irrelevant.
There is a reason why Obama is refusing to release any of the documents that presidential candidates normally release nowadays--there must be embarrassing information in them. But I don't think it means he was born in Kenya.
He isn't a "natural born citizen" but that's because his father wasn't an American citizen, not because of his place of birth.
So why does he continue to stonewall? Simple. It's nothing more than a big F.U. to a group of people who didn't vote for him in '08 and won't vote for him in '12 regardless of what documents he coughs up.
“Obama has stated in the past he was born in Kenya”
REALLY? can you back this up with facts?
Commies
This is not a conspiracy in the sense that people are trying to hide or cover up the matter. Rather, I think the reluctance to conduct a credible investigation -- or the lack of just plain old curiosity -- is that no one with any political or judicial standing or who wants to remain in the good graces of the Washington elite wants to go down in history as the one who called into question the Constitutional qualifications of the first "negro", "black", "mulatto" -- you pick -- president.
That same article said obama was born with a twin attached to his head and the scar he has is from when they separated
them...come on now..
“Chinese” isn’t a language and we aren’t involved in a Cold War of mutually assured destruction with anyone today.
My point was that these two hippy-dippy lefties were probably learning Russian, not for patriotic service to the United States or the West, but quite the opposite...either to stick a needle in the eye of the great capitalist satan or worse, for ulterior motives. Its this same half-baked, jackassed, I-hate-America mentality that found Bill Clinton in Moscow during the 1970’s.
I don’t know where he was born. All I know is that Hawaii could not approve his eligibility and Nancy Pelosi had a fit and took it upon herself to sign him off without having confirmed that he was eligible.
My question is: Why would a US Citizen find it necessary to have to steal a social security number when all he had to do is present a birth certificate and get his own legally?
SOCIAL SECURITY FRAUD FILED AGAINST OBAMA
The video of how the investigator found it and what she found
Susan Daniel’s Affidavit Regarding Obama’s Social Security Number(s)
Related Story:
Another look at Obama’s Social Security number:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=275861
Photo of one of mentioned Barack Obama Social Security numbers with the date (1890) above his date of birth... http://i53.tinypic.com/2rw3kat.jpg
——————— connecting the dots ———————
Other related stories:
Russian Investigative Report: No Evidence of Hawaiian Birth for Obama:
Social Security Fraud Filed:
http://www.patriotactionnetwork.com/profiles/blogs/social-security-fraud-filed
THE CATELOG OF HIDDEN DOCUMENTS FROM AKA OBAMA’S PAST
So far we have only talked about the original birth certificate, supposedly locked up in Hawaii, and AKA OBAMA’s draft and college records. Already the potential sources for leaks are numerous. And you can bet that AKA OBAMA and his lawyers are concerned about many more possible leaks than these.
There is a long list of vulnerability points for leaks, and there is a story behind every one of them. This list is one of many available and comes from one of my favorite blogs
I don’t know how legit this Kenyan birth certificate is. I’m not one who is quick to buy into things. What I do know, however, is that Obama has yet to release his Birth Certificate and because of that he leaves himself wide open to suspicions and speculation. The birth certificate is not the only thing he’s hiding:
• Original, vault copy birth certificate – Not released – Lawyers fees – greater than $1,000,000 – birth certificate – $15.
• Certification of Live Birth – Released – Counterfeit – Case and Affidavits
• Admitted British citizenship at birth – Confirmed via FactCheck.org/FightTheSmears.com
• Birth Announcement – Alleged to be a forgery
• Obama/Dunham marriage license – Not released
• Obama/Dunham divorce – Released (by independent investigators)
• Soetoro/Dunham marriage license – Not released
• Soetoro adoption records – Not released
• Fransiskus Assisi School School application – Released (by independent investigators)
• Punahou School records – Not released
• Soetoro/Dunham divorce – Released (by independent investigators)
• Selective Service Registration – Released – Counterfeit – Document Locator Number update – another FOIA request
• Occidental College records – Not released
• Passport – Not released and records scrubbed clean by Obama’s terrorism and intelligence adviser
• Columbia College records – Not released
• Columbia thesis – “Soviet Nuclear Disarmament” – Not released
• Harvard College records – Not released
• Harvard Law Review articles – None
• Illinois Bar Records – Not released.
• Baptism certificate – None
• Medical records – Not released
• Illinois State Senate records – None
• Illinois State Senate schedule – Lost
• Law practice client list – Not released
• University of Chicago scholarly articles – None
• Kindergarten records – this” lost or hidden” incident deserves more detail:
The Hawaii DOH has indirectly confirmed that the certificate number and “date filed” on the Factcheck COLB are incompatible. People need to think long and hard about why - if Obama had a valid Hawaii BC - he couldn’t come up with a valid BC#/”date filed” combination to put on the forgery he created. All he would have had to do was copy it from the BC he had.
Occam’s Razor would suggest he didn’t do that because he didn’t HAVE a valid Hawaii BC to copy the information from.
That would also explain why Neil Abercrombie wasn’t able to find one, why Obama won’t just show one, why he had to get a fake SSN and his passport file had to be sanitized, and why he is hiding all of his educational and medical records as well.
This guy was using a different BC his entire life, and now the doo-doo is hitting the fan because he tried to manufacture a HI BC and couldn’t get the “date filed” and BC# right.
A good place to start to understand the evidence we have for all this is at http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2011/03/04/factcheck-forgery-for-dummies/
Ahhh, a reptilian, I like that.
Cold blooded, ick factor, scaly, treacherous, etc.
The African (not Associated) Press issued a retraction shortly thereafter:
Simultaneous with Obama’s rising stature is the increasing desire by Kenyans to identify with him. Typical newspaper headlines and messages flying around the Internet tend to lead with the theme "Kenyan-linked", or "Kenyan-American", or even, erroneously, "Kenyan-born".
People like identifying with winners, especially when they can be linked to them in a direct way. However, Kenyans are mistaken in attempting to claim Mr Barrack Obama as one of their own..."
Communists.
Obama’s Mother was a Commie. So was his Father; his Step-father, his Grandmother; his Grandfather and his special “Uncle” Frank.
In fact - everyone who had a direct influence on Little Barry was a Communist.
Go figure.
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