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Posted on 04/17/2011 5:52:39 PM PDT by tcg
Readers of Catholic Online recall the series of back and forth disagreements which flowed between now Ambassador Doug Kmiec and I during the last Presidential campaign. Doug is a friend, albeit one with whom I held a very serious disagreement. His quickly written book released during the last Presidential campaign was entitled "Can a Catholic Support Him?" and subtitled "Asking the Big Question about Barrack Obama". It made a serious impact on the last Presidential election.
In the forward to the book he was kind enough to acknowledge me with these words "Deacon Keith Fournier's writing and editing of Catholic Online is courageous and wise". However, when I reviewed the book, I made my absolute disagreement with his position unequivocally clear. He asked the wrong question.
The proper question was not "can" but "should". The word "can" addresses the issue of capacity and ability. Any Catholic can exercise their right to vote in any manner in which they choose. The question is should they vote for someone whose position will not promote the fundamental truth that every human person has a fundamental right to life?
The Church to which Doug and I both belong does not tell people how to vote, in the sense of which candidate to choose in an election. "Should" on the other hand examines the morality of that choice given our obligation to exercise our freedom with reference to the truth.
In short, what is our duty? Sadly, in his argumentation in this book, Doug confused and conflated the two. It is on that fundamental point that I completely disagreed with Doug Kmiec, and I made my disagreement widely known. Doug Kmiec was wrong. Sadly, he also led many astray.
(Excerpt) Read more at catholic.org ...
Friends can make wrong decisions...
...but when they promote - either directly or through who they promote, or in this case, who they work for - the killing of babies, then they quickly move from "friend" to "fiend".
Still one of the most baffling stories of the 2008 election season.
That was a serious sin with a lot of consequences. Frankly, it would be easier to repent after murdering somebody. Because the sad effects of his support for Obama the baby killer are still with us today.
And they will be with us tomorrow, whether or not he repents and confesses. He has a heavy burden on his conscience.
Thanks tcg.
Another one under the bus.
While an Illinois state senator, just about the only controversial issue on which Obama took a position more definitive than a vote of “present” was the law to prevent the killing of abortion survivors, which Obama opposed vigorously and often.
Then, while running for president, Obama continuously dissembled and misrepresented his position on that issue, doing everything in his power to compound his callousness towards abortion survivors by cold acts of deception about his motives.
Anybody intelligent, politiical-attuned person calling themselves a Catholic and then supporting Obama for the presidency had to be either extremely gullible or dishonestly opportunistic (or both).
I must have missed the part where Doug recanted his support for Obama.......
Then do it.
Thirty pieces of silver will always do the trick -- won't it, Doug?
I don’t know him and I actually didn’t think he was a very important “conservative Catholic,” so I was a little surprised that anybody actually cared what he thought. But evidently he had a following, and he did an enormous disservice to the Catholic Church by supporting Obama.
I think he should apologize publicly and repudiate his position on Obama and Obama’s policies. And I think his friends owe him the decency of a reality check, too; he has done a great deal of harm, and he should have to come to grips with it.
Bullcrap. Traitors are traitors, not "friends who make wrong decisions". Kmiec can NEVER be forgiven. what he did was despicable and inexcusable. and he should rightly continue to be shunned by the pro-life community he knowingly, deliberately betrayed.
“He has a heavy burden on his conscience.” ~ Cicero
Apparently not. Read what Fournier wrote about the Youtube “resignation” video Kmiec made:
“The You Tube lead in to this article is an example of the sophistry which Doug Kmiec not only promoted but advanced.”
Kmiec VIDEO: http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=41080
“To this day, I am of the opinion that Doug was used by the Obama campaign. ....”
You don’t want to speculate, but I do. What he did was nothing sort of whoring. Of course, the price is not necessarily something like 30 pieces of silver. Pride. Identity to be acknowledged as a ‘broad-minded person’. (False sense of) martyrdom. The list could go on.
...short of...
The majority of voters were deceived, are still deceived. Even the elect, if that were possible.
He was a fool. How do you get back from that?
“..we have all made the same mistake.”
Er, no we haven’t all made that mistake. Although many of us have, and maybe that’s not so bad. (To avoid this mistake do what my mother did, always vote for the Republican.)
But for a prominent Catholic to have lent his support to an abortion loving, communist, empty suit like Barack Obama, what can I say? That’s a whopper!
And why, why did he support him? That was never clear to me. At least with David Brooks we know it was the tailoring.
And, see how Kmiec got rewarded for his support? Under the bus, with grandma, rev, wright and the rest of the gang.
President Obama is a despicable person and Doug Kmiec seems quite troubled.
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