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Posted on 04/15/2011 6:59:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Trump is the only person who is showing real strength with his comments. He may be more of a force than people expect. His comment yesterday about wealthy Jewish backers of Obama is something no politician in America would have the courage to say. Likewise; his opinion on Iraqi oil.
Given that we now have only one party - the Government Party, comprised of both Dems and RINOs, both contriolled by globalist entities, and both having moved well beyond the limited government our Founders sought to encode in their now thwarted efforts at a Constitution - yes: We need a new party.
But I’m afraid we will not get one without large scale bloodshed first.
It will not be a third party.
There is only one party now the Rino-Dem party.
The rest of us are only hanging on to the fringe’s
If the GOP runs a liberal in 2012 (Romney, especially), all bets are off. If a decent conservative runs under the Tea Party banner, I will donate to, work, and vote for that candidate.
Half of Democrats are to the right of half of Republicans.
Until this changes, there is really only one party.
“As we citizens hunker down in the back seat, tightening our seat belts, some of us see the cliff close enough to warrant pulling the emergency brake with the fierce urgency of now in order to avoid a Thelma & Louise event.”
Interesting article, but the writer goes off the track right here.
I wrote about this yesterday in another thread, but let me draw an analogy insofar as “putting on the brakes” is concerned.
Think for a moment of a heavy freight train going down a mountain grade. Yes, it has brakes (both for regular “service” and additional “emergency” capacity). But the sum total of the train’s brakes is capable of only so much “braking horsepower” that can be applied against the momentum of the moving train. As the train speed increases, so does the kinetic energy built up within it. A point will be reached where the train has so much forward momentum that ALL the brakes applied with the FULL AMOUNT of braking power (which is actually “emergency”) will not be able to stop it. The applied brakes might provide some retarding force and slow the train, but what can happen is the brake shoes will actually burn and melt away — and leave the train with no brakes at all. This actually happened in southern California some years’ ago, when a train overloaded with Bauxite ran away down a grade called “The Palmdale Cutoff”, then crashed and destroyed several homes (and a day or two later, a ruptured gas line caught fire and destroyed more of them).
In that wreck, when the engineer first realized the train was reaching a point where control would be lost, he went right to “full service” on the brakes (full service is the most brake you can get without going one step more to emergency). At first, there was some braking, but because the train had more weight than the brakes could handle, the brake shoes actually melted. I believe when he realized full service wasn’t enough, the guy went right to emergency, but by then the damage was done, for once the brake shoes are destroyed, there’s no way to brake the cars anymore. And that was that.
Well, told you that to tell you this:
We have accumulated so high a “mountain” of debt already — and it continues to grow at such an astronomical rate — that the “debt train” may now have so much “weight” and momentum that (like the doomed train above) there’s no way to “brake it” anymore. Even “emergency” actions may no longer prove effective.
And once that point is passed, all that remains is a wreck ahead.
And as I wrote yesterday, perhaps the only way left that the train can be “fixed” is for it to first derail and be so damaged that no one in power will be able to deny what repairs must be made to make it operable again.
Whether it will take “a new political party” to effect such repairs, I can’t say.
But I’ll offer another thought:
Most trains these days have more than one engine, running “in multiple”. In the America of today, we have two factions of thought that are so diverse that they no longer seem able to work together, or believe together. Of course, I’m referring to the red states vs. the blue states. The differences seem so un-bridgeable that it’s almost like a new Civil War could be in the offing. Even such a leftist as Jerry Brown in California admitted this a couple of days ago.
The train wreck is coming.
But AFTER the train wrecks, might the engines be repaired separately, and then “go their own ways”?
One train, down a track that leads to freedom and prosperity and the rights of the individual as envisioned more than two centuries ago by The Founders?
And the other down a multi-culti leftist track to who-knows-where?
Just sayin’....
Half of Democrats are to the right of half of Republicans.
Conversely,
Half of Republicans are to the left of half of Democrats.
Straight and simple, the answer is YES....the existing parties are filled to the brim with nutless idiots. =.=
obama MUST be defeated in November.
Any siphoning of Republican votes this election will spell doom for this country.....
Do you think that those you elected are actually representing you? About 77% of the people in this Nation are opposed to national health care, but what happened? Most congresscritters have totally forgotten that they are there to represent, not rule.
If Conservatives simply left the GOP rather than trying to second guess what can be done with that leadership, there would still be a two party system. It just wouldn't be based upon the established bozos.
You know, even during the Revolution... those that wanted a Revolution against Britain and an independent United States were in the minority.
What made the others of our nation turn in support was the fact that those that did... actually LED via words and deeds.
And the same applies here. There is only a minority now that support a new Conservative party. But should it happen, and those in it LEAD with good ideas and sound judgement, others will follow.
And then the changeover to the new political reality takes place, even though - initially, only a few backed the idea.
I am all for secession.
Have we accomplished much if we just get the I want to do the same thing as obama, just cheaper and slower... in obama’s place?
Both parties know what to do, one will not because of it would end its very existence, and the other party has half of its members wanting what the liberals want and the other half doesn’t have the fortitude to do what they know must be done to save the Republic.
I think we have passed the point of no return. It’s 1860 all over again and a great chasm is upon us. I don’t know what form it will take but our way of life is about to change.
From observation, I don't think there is any major difference in the two parties. This Nation is doomed regardless of who sits in the oval office. The Nation is idealogically split down the middle with neither group attempting compromise. It is time to split the Nation, peacefully, with mutual consent.
Ecclesiastes 3:8 NIV
a time to love and a time to hate, a time for war and a time for peace.
We need the right time and someone to know that time.
If, as you write, our representatives won’t represent us, forming a new party isn’t going to solve the problem.
When someone actually makes a reasonable case for a third party, maybe then I’d consider it. The simple fact is, if conservatives don’t wield enough power to take over the Republican Party, then it’s irrational to think they’re going to win the country with an entirely new party.
Virtually every well known conservative thinker says the third party route is suicide, but some persist in their delusions of political grandeur. Again, if we can’t even muster up enough political strength and enthusiasm to move the Republican Party to the right, how are we supposed to win control of the country...from scratch...with an entirely new party???
I understand the hostility toward RINOs, but if there’s enough enthusiasm and energy for a new party, why not invest that toward reforming the Republican Party? They already have the apparatus to win national elections and millions of virtually guaranteed votes (yeah, some folks vote the party ‘cause it’s all they’ve ever done). Republicans are the best chance conservatives have of turning this country around.
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