“...Do you consider Obama to be a natural born citizen and how do you come by that conclusion?...
...was simple as well. “
LOL, a simple question, not a simple answer. Some reasoning regarding Obama’s citizenship and eligibility:
1. Obama was born to a US citizen mother in Honolulu, Hawaii, on Aug 4, 1961. Thus, he has been (due to 14th amendment and Wong Kim Ark) a US citizen since birth.
Details and evidence for Honolulu birthplace is below.
2. Someone who is a citizen of the US at birth is a ‘natural born citizen’. The court of appeals in Indiana, in a court ruling in Ankeny v Daniels, one of the eligibility lawsuits, studied and wrote on the substantive question of what constitutes Natural Born Citizen. Perhaps the only ruling in the eligibility/birther cases that got to the substantive question of what constitutes eligibility. The Ankeny court stated:
“Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.”
My own opinion is that my opinion actually matters less than what a court WILL do, and Ankeny v Daniels pretty clearly lays out the reasoning courts will take - Natural-Born Citizen equates to being a citizen since birth (as opposed to naturalized / immigrant). (As stated in Dred Scott and other cases: “... the constitution uses the language, “a natural-born citizen.” It thus assumes that citizenship may be acquired by birth.”)
The Ankeny court ruling is here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/22488868/ANKENY-v-GOVERNOR-OF-THE-STATE-OF-INDIANA-APPEALS-COURT-OPINION-11120903
3. Based on Obama’s birth in the US to a US mother, and his citizenship at birth, he’s a natural born citizen and is eligible to be President.
Evidence for Obama’s birthplace being Honolulu, Hawaii:
1. When first challenged on his birthplace, Obama released his COLB - Certification of Live Birth - that people get from the State of Hawaii when they request birth records. This document has an embossed seal and stamp from Hawaii officials. The COLB was photographed by folks at factcheck.org:
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_6.jpg
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_2.jpg
2. Newspaper announcement of birth one week after birth, Aug 4. Two newspapers had birth announcements on Aug 13 and Aug 14th, and they were in turn gotten from State of Hawaii records office. Here’s one of them:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/ObamaBirthStarBulletin.jpg
3. The newspapers in turn got their data from the Health Records Office of Hawaii. What this further means is that Obama’s records were put on file between Aug 4 and Aug 14, 1961.
4. Honolulu was the place of residents of parents: Stanley Dunham and Barack Obama Sr lived, met and were students in Honolulu. That was there hometown. As students, they had little money, so the natural conclusion would be that they would have very likely had their baby in Honolulu. They had a Marriage in Feb, baby in August.
5. State officials from Hawaii vouched for his birth records being on file and him being born in Hawaii: I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008, over eight months ago.
Perhaps you missed it so I repeat...
Name one.
BTW, gonna apologize for being unbecoming and attacking me by calling me and others idiots, Hypocrite?
I won’t even get into the domestic abuse allegation you made earlier ;)
“3. Based on Obamas birth in the US to a US mother, and his citizenship at birth, hes a natural born citizen and is eligible to be President.”
Totally wrong. This has been refuted time and again and you continue posting incorrect information.
First, he has never shown he is even a citizen. Have you seen his LFBC? Neither has Pelosi. Nor have I. Norm may I add, have you. For all any of us know, You are Obama.
Are you? Are you not? Can you prove it?
2...Ankeny v Daniels
LOL...you're much better served reading Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162