Posted on 04/14/2011 1:32:53 PM PDT by Rational Thought
“Stop with the damn birth certificate!” he said. “Stop!” According to him, it is a non-issue that only detracts from the real problem in America, which is progressives fundamentally transforming America.
“If you’re going to lose your country– we’re going to lose it on a birth certificate?” he asked. “You have a real opportunity to talk about American exceptionalism … instead you’re going to waste time on the birth certificate?”
“You’re out of your mind if you think that is a winning argument for the next election. You’re out of your mind. You have to go fight the battle on the principles of America!”
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You did not address any of my points in my several responses to you.
Why do you think that the MSM has any relevance? It is the propaganda arm of the left. You seem to think that trying to placate them, or do or say things that they will like or report honestly about is a useful endeavor?
The fact is that the vast majority of everyone connected with the MSM are hardcore leftists and their goal is to destroy America and they are enemies of conservative and constitutional principles, and anyone who espouses those principles.
If you want to know what “talking smack” is, read your comemnts. They are examples of “talking smack”.
Civility?
Post 915 you said
“You truly are an idiot.”
That the civility you want from others?
You really know no shame. Very ‘not’ conservative.
What many do not take into consideration is this really the hill “BC” to die on?
When there is so much more obvious this man has done let’s stay focus in the scheme of things if the BC issue is false it will be the icing not the whole cake!
It may not be ‘the issue’ but it is my question. have at it.
I already had at it.
You know more than you let on.
We sure do have a different definition of "know". No wonder we disagree on natural born citizen.
Thx for keeping it civil.
I try to keep the ogre in me in check. Sometimes, though...it's tough!
When there is so much more obvious this man has done let’s stay focus in the scheme of things if the BC issue is false it will be the icing not the whole cake!
Well then, go focus on it! What the hell are you doing here besides whining?! Just berating the actions others choose to freely take?
Your time, by your own statement, is wasted here.
So the progressive and Geo Soros infiltration is nothing to worry about in your book?
…and why are you so angry?
Would it not be better to light of day shine on all the rats…
…and why are you so angry?
Have you assumed I'm angry because I use emphasis in my writing? Do you speak in a monotonous voice or do you put emphasis on some words?
Why are you trying to get people to stop focusing on this? You obviously have no problem covering several issues at the same time so why can't others do the same?
Would it not be better to light of day shine on all the rats…
Okay, you shine your flashlight to the left and I'll shine my flashlight to the right. We'll cover more territory that way.
I was onto Soros before being onto Soros was cool!
I can only assume that there are 2 things at work here
1: Actual people on the Right that believe that those of us in the ‘birther’ ranks are creating a problem by our actions that will be a determent overall to their favored ‘solution’ to ousting Obama (legally of course)
2: lib/Dem types claiming to be Right wingers that wish to spread confusion and stop any discussion that could lead to discoveries/information that could cause a problem for the Divine one.
You are 100% correct What is the problem if we do our thing? For the second group, who cares? For the first, they might as well deal with it because we aren’t going away.
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I'll just wait for the transcripts.
Thank you for sharing your opinion.
I did not respond to the points you raised because they are not my positions. They are positions that you are trying to assign to me and positions I have not raised. Im not trying to argue with you. I do find it incredible that in one breath you would acknowledge the media is effective for disseminating a position and in the same breath say it should not be used. But this discussion was about Beck and his comments that focusing on the birth certificate issue over others is a misuse of our resources.
Beck is a commentator. That is his job. Anyhow, I cant keep up with you. See you on another thread. FReepRegards
When I said you didn’t “address” my points means you didn’t try to refute them! You didn’t tell me how I am wrong! Because you can’t.
Since when is Beck or any other MSM person “our” resources? First of all, you think me or any other Constitutionalist can influence Beck? Who does influence Beck? Whoever he chooses to get influenced by, most likely the man who signs his checks. They say “Don’t touch that issue”, so he won’t touch it.
I wonder what you think “our” resources, in connection with the MSM, you mean.
And for the love of all that is holy, it’s not merely the birth certificiate issue! It’s eveyrthing that he is lying about! It’s his eligibility.
I am starting to really wonder about you. “Our” resoureces - like the MSM is a resources of you and your friends? It’s owned and controlled by freaking leftists! What anyone says on FR doens’t influence them! They’re in 0h0mo’s and his fellow leftists’ pockets for crying out loud.
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