Posted on 04/14/2011 1:32:53 PM PDT by Rational Thought
“Stop with the damn birth certificate!” he said. “Stop!” According to him, it is a non-issue that only detracts from the real problem in America, which is progressives fundamentally transforming America.
“If you’re going to lose your country– we’re going to lose it on a birth certificate?” he asked. “You have a real opportunity to talk about American exceptionalism … instead you’re going to waste time on the birth certificate?”
“You’re out of your mind if you think that is a winning argument for the next election. You’re out of your mind. You have to go fight the battle on the principles of America!”
(Excerpt) Read more at theblaze.com ...
I am not ignoring any ‘backtracks’, it’s you who have failed to share any quotes on these ‘backtracks’ you claim, to actually back up your claim with specifics.
What did they ‘backtrack’ on? Where is your source? Did they ever backtrack on saying his records were on file with state of Hawaii and show him being born in Hawaii?
And where do you think Barry Hussein was born if not Honolulu?
When you call me something I am not, it’s slander.
I take the Glen Beck and Ann Coulter position on Obama birthplace conspiracy theories - they are bunk and a distraction from the real task of stopping Obama’s socialism.
Glen, Ann and I are on the same page on this, and calling me or them “Obots” for taking this position is slander. Ann’s take:
It’s really dumb of birthers to bash Glen or Ann over this, and its wrong for you to attack me just because I dont join in drinking the koolaid on this.
You dont know me, obviously. I have been a consistent critic of everything Obama and his cabal has done. I have spent tens of thousands of dollars, weighed in on campaigns, helped candidates, helped the Republican party, attended and spoke out at Tea Party rallies and beyond that - all to defeat Obama and his minions in the last 24 months. I can wager any amount it is far more than you have done.
So when you call me names, you are full of cr*p.
“just one negative, critical thing”
Obamacare Delenda Est!
Stop Obama’s Socialism
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2705351/posts?page=9#9
I sometimes wonder when people will admit that the assumption that a person has to be a foreign-born individual to be a real monkey wrench in the system is wrong. Let’s see, some of the Kennedy kids (JFK, Ted, and Robert) were born in the U.S.A., not to mention Ted Kacyzinsky, Timothy McVeigh, and who knows how many more. The real problem is on the other issues like partial-birth abortion, the global warming exaggeration, the trash and tax system, and more. This birther claim, however, alienates from a great deal of the right. Beck is right to distance himself from them.
Oh, I would add the question, how close is the birth certificate demand to getting any real results, anyways?
You want a critique of Obama?
This comment is an even better description of who Obama REALLY is ... and why the birther story is barking up the wrong tree:
Barack Obama is an old-fashioned American communist, born in Hawaii, son of an 18-year old single white mother, a marxist student from Kansas.
Like most western marxists at that time 18-year old Ann Dunham idolized the Third World as vanguard of the Revolution. So she hooked up with the first African socialist she could get her hands on.
Obama Sr. had no reason to bring his pregnant Hawaiian girlfriend home with him to his wife and kids in Kenya. If Obama is hiding anything, it is the fact that he is the son of basically a single white mother, which doesn’t fit the “first bl@ck president” myth.
The Obama propaganda machine wants you to believe he is African and wants racists to get worked up about it. All the anti-imperialism and bl@ck liberation stuff Obama got from his white mum; it was all standard marxist dogma in the 1970s.
It is the afterbirthers who are the conspiracy theorists!
The **RATIONAL** proofers are merely stating that Obama has not proven with all of the best evidence that he is a natural born citizen. That is a FACT!
Given Obama’s irrational behavior of spending tons of tax payer and personal money to hide common documents, RATIONAL Article 2 defenders are merely asking, “What's up with this guy? Why not just release the documents?”
Countries have been lost over less. Yo, Beck, we can walk and chew gum at the same time so we can certainly multi-task the economy, healthcare, and wars while getting the word out on the usurper occupying OUR White House.
“Then Freepers you have to ask yourself, just how far from the pack have ya’ll strayed?”
Along with those 51% of Republicans who have questions, there are quite a few of those who cast their vote for him who are now wanting to push the restart button. It’s those whom the RATS should be very, very afraid of, not the GOP or the Tea Partiers.
You are a typical after-birther. You lie.
You’ve repeatedly said that (per the COLB and the newspaper announcements) that Barack Obama, Jr. was born to Mr. and Mrs. Barack Obama, Sr.
Now you say he was born to “an 18-year old single white mother... “
Which is it, liar? You can’t keep your story straight. Typical liberal BS.
Also. Upthread I asked you RELATIVE TO OBAMA’s BIRTH to name one inconsistency. You dodged the issue on that, also. You started in on Obama’s socialism. Not what I asked for - but it is what I expected; when you are not lying then you’re not telling the truth.
Who says it'll tear the country apart? No one but the ones trying to hide the long form and all the other sealed records. When they can't give an honest answer to the public, they side step the issue by throwing out the "oh, no, riots and chaos!!!!" excuse. That right there says a lot.
2) Further deepening and widening the racial and partisan divide in the county;
Go back to your supervisor, these points so obviously out you as a Dem operative it's not even funny.
You're really bad at this, you know.
You’re such a fool. Verified quotes and sources and links are all over this thread. Not one single person is tricked by your idiocy.
You exhibit every standard bit of 0h0m0 suckup toadying troll behavior.
For Want of a Nail
For want of a nail the shoe was lost.
For want of a shoe the horse was lost.
For want of a horse the rider was lost.
For want of a rider the battle was lost.
For want of a battle the kingdom was lost.
And all for the want of a horseshoe nail.
“That’s all you got?”
Yup. It’s not the whole deck of evidence, but that’s the gist of it, the COLB out there plus:
- two newspaper birth announcements in Aug 1961 and
- Hawaii officials to vouch for the birth records being on file and him being born in Hawaii.
As we havent seen any evidence that a crack team of ninja microfiche hackers somehow went back in time to recreate an Aug 1961 newspaper record in time to fool a curious investigator who stumbled upon this in 2008, we’d pretty much have to conclude the newspaper announcements are real.
But go ahead, explain how else things transpired ...
What evidence do you have for alternative scenario than him being born in Hawaii?
Do believe he was NOT born in Honolulu, Hawaii?
You are sooooooooo weak with this retread DU tripe.
First of all, there is no COLB “out there”. There is a digital image appearing on partisan websites, and in particular Obama’s Fight the Smears website which equates to nothing more than POLITICAL ADVERTISING. It has no validity otherwise. It is advertising. And you are one of the suckers born every minute who swallow it up, together with parsed statements from officials in Hawaii not taken under oath with the fear of perjury.
I provided you a link to a real COLB from Hawaii, did you compare that to Obammies’? It is missing several fields that are present on the “real Known” COLB. What does it say on the document, any alteration invalidates the document. Guess what, Obammies’ document is altered - it is invalid.
Question: Where’s Gov. Abercrombie with the BC as he promised? Instead, we get a whimper of a statement claiming that there is something WRITTEN DOWN in the STATE ARCHIVES.
Further, prove the announcements appeared in the newspaper. Got a copy of a newspaper with those announcements in it? No you don’t. Not even the proud Dunhams have a copy for public viewing.
There is no long form birth certificate with Barack Hussein Obama II on it and that’s a fact. That’s why he had to purchase a COLB in 2007 with the name Obama on it. The same COLB the DPH would not accept from Obama for him to qualify to be on the ballot in Hawaii in 2008 (ask Brian Schatz why he refused to certify Obama as constitutionally eligible for office). Nancy Pelosi had to step in and shenanigans ensued.
McCain provided his LFBC to Congress for inspection. But Obama refuses to show his even to this day. And people like you call it a distraction. Did you feel the same way about Nixon surpressing efforts to investigate a burglary of a political opponent’s campaign headquarters? Did you trust tricky Dick that he was honest???
If you think Watergate caused a near constitutional crisis, just wait til the truth comes out that a fraud has been elected to the highest office in the land without a whimper of critical thinking and analysis about who was being sent there.
“The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth, are people with something to hide” - Barack Hussein Obama II, Usurper
That's absolutely correct. Fukino and Co. can no longer justify blocking access to the birth records on any kind of "privacy" grounds. There is no longer any kind of "privacy" left with regard to the birth records.
This is a matter of vital public interest. End of story.
“I sometimes wonder when people will admit that the assumption that a person has to be a foreign-born individual to be a real monkey wrench in the system is wrong”
Correct. Let’s name another 2 American-born leftist loons. Obama’s friends Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers. Are they more patriotic or less of a problem for being born in the USA?
How does Obama’s birthplace make him any less or more of a socialist or a danger to USA? People think we dont have enough home-grown American-born marxists or socialists or extremist liberals?
Of course we do, just visit a nearby college campus.
This is a comment someone else made, not me. In any case, the ‘single white Mom’ part is more about how obama was raised, not the legal condition of his Mom at time of birth -she was legally married but separated and divorced soon after. Obama, in “Dreams of My Father” is obsessed with his Dad ... but only met him once. The key is, his socialistic views and political POV came from his ALL-AMERICAN mother’s family. In Michael Savage terms, Obama was a red-diaper-doper baby.
This:
“You’ve repeatedly said that (per the COLB and the newspaper announcements) that Barack Obama, Jr. was born to Mr. and Mrs. Barack Obama, Sr.”
... is true. It’s also not inconsistent with the fact that Obama’s Mom and Mom’s family raised “Barry”. His Dad a drunk Kenyan govt official who married again, lived on another continent and had nothing to do with him while he lived.
You need to calm down and quit throwing the liar card around where it is wrong. Almost as bad as Obama using the race card.
Already answered your question prior.
First, your ad hominems are weak weak weak.
If you want a dialog or discussion, quit with the phony ad hominems and namecalling.
Just because the factcheck website is not a ‘friendly’ website, doesnt mean the COLB isnt real. Its real, unless this whole photograph is a scam.
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_3.jpg
Now it could be real, and still be invalid or even a forged document, but I have to ask: What evidence do you have for that? Any?
The state official statements and the newspaper announcements confirm the basic facts of Obama’s birth in Hawaii on Aug 4,1961, and make it both unlikely and even pointless that the COLB would be faked. Do you agree or not?
Do you contend the COLB doesnt exist? Whats your evidence for it and for the large conspiracy required to pull that off?
“Further, prove the announcements appeared in the newspaper. Got a copy of a newspaper with those announcements in it? No you don’t.”
Of course I dont. They are on microfiche, and sources have found them and shared them. that’s proof enough, without evidence of any other scenario such as black ops and conspiracies.
Where is your evidence of anything else?
“There is no long form birth certificate with Barack Hussein Obama II on it and that’s a fact.”
What is your evidence backing up this ‘fact’?
Again ... What evidence do you have for alternative scenario than him being born in Hawaii?
Do believe he was NOT born in Honolulu, Hawaii?
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