‘Stop With the Damn Birth Certificate!’ Beck Delivers Strong Message to Birthers

The Blaze ^ | 04/14/2011 | Jonathon M. Seidl

[Rational Thought]

“Stop with the damn birth certificate!” he said. “Stop!” According to him, it is a non-issue that only detracts from the real problem in America, which is progressives fundamentally transforming America.

“If you’re going to lose your country– we’re going to lose it on a birth certificate?” he asked. “You have a real opportunity to talk about American exceptionalism … instead you’re going to waste time on the birth certificate?”

“You’re out of your mind if you think that is a winning argument for the next election. You’re out of your mind. You have to go fight the battle on the principles of America!”

[snoringbear]

“I guess Beck has talked with BOR.”

I’m thinking that perhaps Beck is attempting to rehabilitate his brand. Don’t know, just speculating as I haven’t been keeping up very closely on what’s going on between him and Fox...

[WOSG]

Evidence Obama was born in Honolulu:
1. COLB shows he was born in Honolulu
* Is not even a complete COLB, missing information.
= not true, it’s a complete COLB and has the same info as any othre COLB

2. 2 newspaper announcements in Aug 1961 in Honolulu announced his birth
* Means nothing, anyone can put an announcement in the newspaper.
= a common error of ‘true believers’ to discount any data that conflicts with their thesis; this is ‘confirmation bias’. It is NOT true that ‘anyone’ can put an announcement in the paper, the section the announcements were put in were from public records, so they came from records dept, not public submission. This means that Hawaii Dept of Health gave the newspaper the info. and where did the dept of health get their info? From hospitals.

3. specific hospital where he was born named.
* When was this done?
= official bio, relatives, etc.

4. It was where his mother met her father and where they both lived and went to school
* And the point here is what?
= It’s rather absurd for a very pregnant woman to take an air flight from a remote island to have a baby somewhere else. That’s what would have to happen for Barack to not be born in Hawaii.

5. His birth information is on file with state records
* Have you seen it? How do you know as no one has seen it.
= It is false to state that ‘nobody has seen it’ since hawaii official Dr Chiyome Fukino has publicly stated she has seen the original birth information and confirmed the COLB document’s validity. See here:

“Before she would do so, Fukino said, she wanted to inspect the files — and did so, taking with her the state official in charge of vital records. She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files. She then put out a public statement asserting to the document’s validity. She later put out another public statement in July 2009 — after reviewing the original birth record a second time.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42519951/ns/politics-more_politics

6. State officials have vouched for his state records and state he was born in Honolulu.
* Have you seen it? Some have said they have seen it (will not show it), some say it does not exist, some say they have seen it but now it’s gone.
* So bottom line, where is the birth certificate?
= Correct. the ONE VALID POINT here is that the original information has not been publicly released, only the COLB. Obviously, if they did release it, it would allay the questions about which hospital etc.
BUT they claim that it cant be done legally according to state law.
The answer to your question, though, is simple: The information is on file with state of hawaii, they have vouched for it, and the COLB that has been publicly released matches the information.
Now, you can go all conspiracy-theory on this and doubt officials and stories and make claims of forgeries and frauds, but frankly, none of those claims have evidence to back them up, just suppositions and unsupported accusations.

Evidence Obama was born somewhere else:
* Really? How about his Kenyan family members, his wife....
= See my other post. The claim his Grandma said he was born in Kenya was false, she really said he was born in Hawaii.

* Maybe he was born in the USA
= More than a ‘maybe’

... but why has he spent over $2 million, to prevent anyone from seeing the original BC, what is he hiding?
= Note that (a) THIS ISSUE HAS HELPED OBAMA POLITICALLY - HE GETS A FREE “RACIST CARD” WHEN IT POPS UP (b) it’s a distraction from issues that really kill him (c) he’s not really ‘hiding’ his BC, the state of hawaii wont release it. He probably doesnt have it, just the COLB (d) he is a thin-skinned egomaniac, why would he cater to measly you on your information requests?

* Why has he sealed his college records. what is he hiding?
= see point (d) above. Valid question, but no about his place of birth.

[Tennessee Nana]

I always thought that Patriots were kick butt about the truth and rights...

and about the Declaration of Independance

and the Constitutution that they produced...

It seems their gutless wonder descendants want to roll over and play dead...

This descendant of Loyalists will prop their weak bellied hides up

Wheres the long form birth certificate for Barry Dunham, illegitimate child of Stanley Ann Dunham ???

Tennessee Nana UE

(And that WAS a horrible waste of good tea)

[Polybius]

No. He thinks that Obama is playing Rope-a-Dope with the birth certificate

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Now **that's** a conspiracy! It is pure conspiratorial thinking to believe that Obama is using his birth certificate to make birthers look foolish.

No, as I said, I believe he is hiding it because it probably shows an embarrassing illegitimate birth and a surname of Dunham. Obama's lawyers specifically stated in Court that disclosure of the birth certificate would be "embarrassing" to Obama and the Judge agreed.

Making the other side look foolish is an added bonus. Like it or not, only 25% of voters think that Obama was "born in Kenya". To the other 75%, the "born in Kenya" theory is tinfoil hat thinking. Look up the polls on Google if you don't believe me.

So, Obama gets to:

1.) Hide his illegitimate birth status and "white" birth surname

2.) Make the other side look like tinfoil hatters to 75% of voters.

It's a Win-Win situation for Obama and well worth his trouble.

Fact: A man sits in prison because Obama would not release his birth certificate. Major Cook's career was ruined. Wow! Not so funny!

No. Major Cook sits in jail because he missed a troop movement and he got court-martialed just like this liberal got court-martialed when he tried that same "in my humble opinion, that is an illegal order" cr@p with George W. Bush.

First Lieutenant Ehren Watada. Court-martialed under UCMJ Article 87 and Article 133 for trying to pull the same thing under George W. Bush

Fact: Obama sent tax paid attorneys around the nation to prevent the release of his birth certificate.

Yep. Under the existing privacy laws, that is his right just as it is your right to hide your medical record under HIPPA law.

That proves ...... what?

That Obama is embarrassed by an "illegitimate birth" documentation and a "white" birth surname?

The fact that the Court ruled that he has a right to hide the document means that there is a document to hide.

The only proof offered to the American people have been Internet images of dubious origin and likely forgeries,

And, under the law, he is not required to show the general public squat. He is only required to allow the Courts to look into the matter and the Courts said "Ummm... Okay .... Good enough but the general public still has no right to see it if you don't want them to."

[Scanian]

If all those hosts are going to drop the eligibility issue, then it might be harder for Trump to get the amount of airtime that he has.

I think that’s the real motive: STOP TRUMP.

The real RINOs like Romney are worried about maverick Trump.

[little jeremiah]

The BC issue will harm our party and the country

Which party? The Dems are demons, and the Repubs are selfserving gutless cowards who seem just as bought and paid for (majority of them, anyway) as the Dems. So, party doesn't matte, they're either evil or useless.

And what kind of country do we have if the Constitution is destroyed and a fraud is allowed to squat in the White House?

This is what it means: CRIME PAYS and whoever can be the best criminal wins.

[tips up]

Didn’t know that but it certainly makes sense.

[Scanian]

Good find.

I believe that Polarik told us that same thing 2 1/2 years ago and for that he was bashed mercilessly.

[Tennessee Nana]

The BC issue will harm our party and the country.
_____________________________________________

NO kid

Its the lies that have hurt our country...

the truth will set us free...

But you keep on paying the stamp tax if you want...

[sanjuanbob]

Hi Glen,
Have read a couple of your books and they’re great! I skipped the first three or four chapters because, hey, the story ended up the same. Waste of time knowing about you when you were a kid working in a bakery.

[melancholy]

a fraud is allowed to squat in the White House?

Sorry, LJ. It ain't the White House noooo moooore! It's converted to a Bath House!

[Scanian]

All those folks have got theirs, so nothing really is going to worry them THAT much.

[nickcarraway]

What if you get neither?

[nickcarraway]

What if you get neither? Then Obama gets to do anything he wants?

[Bluebird Singing]

You know, if Beck doesn’t care about this constitutional detail about eligibility, then what’s he all about, anyway? Is this some “evil” game he’s (Beck) playing with his show? Is he just another egotist who loves the limelight? Having obama in office gives him (Beck) a raison d’etre?

He kind of (LOL!) sets himself up as a prophet. The Bible warns of false prophets. What an odd circumstance this is that he has pointed out all of this horrible Soros connectivity, gained our confidence, yet won’t go after obama full force. Who is Beck going to be pointing us towards, a la prophet style. (as if we need him to do this, us sheep). Discernment is called for.

[Norm Lenhart]

Again, why do you keep posting so much inaccurate info? Is there a reason? Are you being paid to? I don’t understand. Please, help us all out here.

[sanjuanbob]

You’ve got it! Noticed lately how many times BOR talks about himself being rich?

[little jeremiah]

Speculation? There has been incredible research both on FR and elsehwere unraveling the fake story that 0h0m0 claims is his life. There’s much more than “speculation”. OTOH, 0h0m0 has nothing - nada - zilch.

At this point, anyone who thinks it’s worthless to find out whether the guy in the White House lied and committed crimes (along with a host of assistants and handlers) to fraudulently assume the presidency is very suspect.