However, I'm sure that won't stop the usual suspects from screaming the oft-repeated refrain of, "Shut it Down" while they completely ignore the very real political reality that will result.
I don’t give a damn if the GOP does get blamed, they need to shut it down.
They lied to us, not once, but several times. This is Boehners fault for not sticking to what was promised and for making nonexistent cuts.
I for one am sick and tired of being played, so they can either do the right thing now, or pay for it later.
They can all go to hell....
Once again, the “R’s” prove they have no testicles. Spending originates in the House. There should not be any R votes for this disaster of a budget.
For someone who is a “complete idiot,” it's amazing how much of the time Sarah Palin is right./sarc. Like 85%+.
Time to trade Cry Baby Bohner for Bachmann
Pray for America
so Obama gets the both of both worlds....exposes his compromising RINO partners to Tea Party scorn, AND gets the Government Shutdown he’s been hoping for
In what century will we reach the point where government is irrelevant?
Maybe some of the savings are in fact Belair Coupons and S&H green stamps.
The real battle is for this year's budget, and that is one the Republicans can absolutely win, if they are willing to simply claim victory for the cuts the Democrats have already accepted, and move on.
#1)Pass a version of Ryan's budget with no less in cuts. #2)Shut down the government with a joint leadership conference with Reid, Obamma, Boehner, and Pelosi where they all publicly share the entire blame. #3) If #1 & #2 are not going to happen, drop the Obamma records bomb, including the state of Hawaii election official who declared Obamma ineligible to run for president in October 2008, and hold congressional hearings on the matter. Start with about 500 subpoenas. Exactly who in the Obamma administration has any records and facts to present during testimony? Obamma locked em all up by executive order. Napalm the whole place.
The frustration is palpable, but I am hoping for the new freshman congressman to hold the line. There are real powers working over time to smoke the truth. No one seems to have the academic talent it takes to unravel debt, taxation, import/export, world bank, Fed Reserve, the Soros effect, etc. It seems Paul Ryan gets it, but he can not carry the load alone, do the politics, and at the same time tutor the nation by himself. There is a snarled mess that remains out of sight, under the rug and behind the walls of politics, having to do with nothing but fleecing Americans out of their money. It is causing a dangerous daze among the people who are literally crying out for leadership and clarity.
The GOP has been caught red handed telling flyover land to piss off. What new about that???? Voodoo budget cuts from voodoo budgets.
You're right about that.... but it's pretty clear that "political reality" does not figure greatly in a lot of people's thinking. It's easier to rant.
Although ... if Podhertz is correct that the current deal may collapse, it seems to me that the GOP needs to be looking at ways to keep control of the narrative, mainly by expanding the scope of the budget debate to more visibly include the deficit and debt.
Boehner has actually been talking that way, though you have to have read the right articles to have seen it.
But really, I think it's time to take the debate out of immediate Congressional action (although that's still very important), and move it into the realm of presidential politics.
Even if there's no declared candidate at this point, there's still an opportunity to put the issue in front of people.
I still recall an issue ad from about 1978 or 1979, with some earnest young fellow (Republican) riding in a car being driven by a cigar-smoking fat-cat who refused to listen to the young guy's warnings about the gas gauge. The car runs out of gas in the middle of nowhere..... and the punch line was, "Isn't it time to vote Republican for a change?" It got folks thinking, which wasn't all that hard given the Carter economy.
A similar sort of ad campaign could (and should) be mounted now, featuring debts, deficits, and the reckless ways of the Democrat spending spree; in my minds eye, I see a bunch of kids pushing around wheelbarrows full of debt. Done right, it could still frame the parameters of the debate in a way that challenges Obama directly.
>>The Budget Deal May Collapse<<
Blah, blah, blah. I read headlines like that before the last agreement. The speculation just sort of gets comical - and feels a bit manipulative.
It’s like watching pro wrestling. It’s not real.
The budget “deal” is an insult to conservatives.
I hope its voted down and the freshman class and the sprinkling of conservatives who have been there a few terms refuse to vote for anything other than true and meaninful cuts. The sooner Blubbering Boehner learns that conservatives will no longer stand for the Gerald Ford/Bob Michaels/Dennie Hastert approach of Republican “leadership” go-along-and-get-along, the better.
Vote ‘er down and then shut ‘er down.
I don’t want them to shut it down. I want it to collapse of its own weight, and that day is rapidly approaching. I would not be surprised if it happens this year. This summer, actually.
BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!
The last “shutdown” had some specifics about it:
1. Good economy
2. Fairly well-liked President
3. No counter-media
4. Barely any internet to speak of
5. It was Christmas
6. Newt got a bunch of attention for complaining that he didn’t get to ride on AF1
7. &c.
We only lost 5-7 House seats and picked up some Senate seats (1, or 2).
This isn’t very much like the last time, but even if it were so...
1. How bad was it really? I’m unconvinced that the sky will fall.
2. What was the November election about? Have the Democrats changed one thing that they were doing before the election that cost them to lose in the biggest slam since the 1930’s? I can’t think of one thing.
3. What exactly are they (Dems) going to run on in 2012 that will cause the American public to come clamoring to them and create the SECOND largest House turn-over since the 1930’s? Because that’s what it will take.
That being said - the Freshmen GOP need to hold new House elections for Speaker. And fast.