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4 ways we're still fighting the Civil War
cnn ^ | April 11, 2011 | Blake, John

Posted on 04/11/2011 7:56:33 AM PDT by stainlessbanner

As the nation commemorates the 150th anniversary of its deadliest war this week, some historians say we're still fighting over some of the same issues that fueled the Civil War.

"There are all of these weird parallels," says Stephanie McCurry, author of "Confederate Reckoning," a new book that examines why Southerners seceded and its effect on Southern women and slaves.

"When you hear charges today that the federal government is overreaching, and the idea that the Constitution recognized us as a league of sovereign states -- these were all part of the secessionist charges in 1860," she says.

1. The disappearance of the political center
2. How much power should the federal government have?
3. Unleashing the dogs of war
4. The president as dictator

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To: stainlessbanner

that was a painful read. Of course the first part blamed all of the pre-secession woes on Evangelical Christians and tried to point to todays’ culture wars and religious intolerance as indicators of another coming conflict. Since I just lectured my students on the cycles of history and pointed out to them that talk of polarization in American politics is nothing new, I am going to send the link to them for them to read and discuss.


41 posted on 04/11/2011 9:02:18 AM PDT by Crapgame (What should be taught in our schools? American Exceptionalism, not cultural Marxism...)
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To: Coldwater Creek

“I live in the South and can’t stand grits or sweet tea!”

How about fried pies? Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm!!!


42 posted on 04/11/2011 9:14:49 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: stainlessbanner

The article is nonsense. What it describes are political battles and arguments that are timeless, not unique to now and the Civil War era.

There is one similarity though: now and during the Civil War era, the Democrats were shameless race baters who exploited race to maintain their power.


43 posted on 04/11/2011 9:17:52 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("The time will come when Winter will ask you what you were doing all Summer" -- Henry Clay)
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To: stainlessbanner

‘jo momma


44 posted on 04/11/2011 9:18:23 AM PDT by Rumplemeyer
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To: stainlessbanner

Wellll, they’re all pretty good, but I like Maurice Bessinger’s BBQ the best!


45 posted on 04/11/2011 9:23:27 AM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: gwilhelm56

that was the most fun ... as a “””YANK””” walking in to a Waffle House, everyone there, of course, noticed immediately.
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
As a New Yorker (without accent) I had the ‘chickory coffee’ experience in LA back when I was 19 and in the Navy. I ordered coffee black, got a strange look and was asked strong or mild. Being a New York/USN ‘know it all’, “Why STRONG, what do you think”. Wrong answer, but hardheaded me ended up drinking 3 cups of that ‘stuff’ that will show `em.

About the ‘Waffle House’ or ‘all night diner’, even today, in say GA or ALA - when you get (way) off the Interstate you are sure to draw out the local ‘night shift’ PD to ‘get an eye on that flatlander’ etc etc...
I was in Terrell County GA around 3AM and stopped in a local all night eatery wearing my USS Terrell County (LST1157) cap and became ‘quite the celebrity’ after much ‘questioning’ etc...the deputy (and diner) even ended up paying for my breakfast....


46 posted on 04/11/2011 9:24:05 AM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98) When you are right, nobody remembers, but when you are wrong, nobody forgets.)
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To: Little Ray

Piggy Park!


47 posted on 04/11/2011 9:30:52 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Tax-chick

“Other than slavery, the issues that precipitated the Civil War are still out there to be dealt with,”

There are a lot of us who are neo-abolitionists in that we desire to free human beings from the slavery of the Federal welfare, public housing and food stamp plantations.


48 posted on 04/11/2011 9:31:12 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: popdonnelly

Yes, you are correct. Southern Democrats were at the forefront of slavery, secession, the KKK and Jim Crow. Remember, it was West Virginia DEMOCRAT Sen. Robert C. Byrd (Sheets Byrd himself) who tried to stop the Civil Rights Act. Pres. Johnson need A LOT of Republican support to get that bill passed.


49 posted on 04/11/2011 9:32:48 AM PDT by chippewaman
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Good observation - dictators, war, class warfare...certainly not limited to 1860’s America.


50 posted on 04/11/2011 9:34:09 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner

Another vote for “Sweeut Tay” and grits.


51 posted on 04/11/2011 9:37:10 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: matginzac
Was that the "Parade" with the cover photo of that towering Civil War figure and American statesman ... Robert Redford? LOL.

What a joke. Don't read "Parade." Cancel your subscription to your paper, too. Everyone needs to do that, posthaste. You're just supporting a liberal frat house.
52 posted on 04/11/2011 9:55:37 AM PDT by hemogoblin
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To: mrmeyer
I like sweet tea and grits. I also like biscuits and gravy too as well as country/Southern fried anything.

And would that include fried okra?

53 posted on 04/11/2011 11:57:09 AM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: Max in Utah

“And would that include fried okra?”

You bet. And okra gumbo, with shrimp or crab meat. Most people don’t really know what good okra is, unless they grow it themselves and cook immediately after picking. I would not eat the blackened rot that passes for okra in the produce market. Canned okra? Forget it.


54 posted on 04/11/2011 2:08:40 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Rebelbase

Excellent observation.


55 posted on 04/11/2011 4:53:04 PM PDT by Tax-chick (If you believe, you will see the glory of God.)
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To: stainlessbanner
This is an exceptionally bad article.

Iraq or Libya makes somebody think of Sherman or Lincoln so we're still fighting the Civil War?

Civil liberties were restricted (by both sides) 150 years ago and today, so we're still fighting the Civil War?

Evangelicals believe in right and wrong and that "poisons the the political process" so the Civil War hasn't ended?

Who makes up this s#!t and why do you post it? Just to stir up arguments among people who are always up for the same stupid argument?

56 posted on 04/11/2011 5:02:57 PM PDT by x
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To: oh8eleven

Ate ‘em every day at Fort Benning and loved ‘em. Still eat grits with a little Red Eye Gravy.

Got a good laugh at the kids that had to push because the got caught putting sugar on them...Drill was screaming, “That ain’t Maltomeal boy!”

Good times.


57 posted on 04/11/2011 6:44:04 PM PDT by Molon Labbie
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To: xrmusn

Terrell county...home of Dawson and Sasser Georgia.


58 posted on 04/11/2011 6:51:04 PM PDT by Vigilantcitizen
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To: stainlessbanner

Thanks for the ping SB.


59 posted on 04/11/2011 10:15:44 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade
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To: stainlessbanner

GA. ;)


60 posted on 04/11/2011 10:20:32 PM PDT by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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