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Navy to upgrade torpedoes for troubled subs
CBC News, Canada ^ | Apr 8, 2011

Posted on 04/08/2011 9:03:31 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

Navy to upgrade torpedoes for troubled subs

CBC News

Canada's navy plans to spend about $120 million to upgrade 36 torpedoes, but they still won't work in its four submarines without further refits, CBC News has learned.

The navy has MK-48 American torpedoes in stock, but the four British-built submarines aren't capable of firing them.

Even after the weapons are converted, Canada would still have to spend millions more to refit the submarines to fire them.

Canada's plan to upgrade the torpedoes was revealed by the U.S. Defense Security Cooperation Agency, which oversees arms sales to foreign countries. The agency said the equipment, parts, training and support would cost more than $120 million Cdn. It notified the U.S. Congress about the sale in mid-March.

Since Canada already has the torpedoes, it will have "no difficulty absorbing these additional conversion kits," the agency said in a new release.

Canadian Defence Department officials have yet to respond to questions from CBC News.

Scott Taylor, publisher of Esprit de Corp, a military magazine, said the navy's submarine program has become an expensive national embarrassment.

"This is probably a little more icing on a cake we probably should never have had," he said.

"Upgrading armaments on submarines, which have never really patrolled, with no war imminent — I mean people have got to be questioning that."

The British Royal Navy launched the Upholder-class, diesel-powered submarines in the late 1980s and withdrew them from service in 1994. Canada bought four of them in 1998 and renamed them Victoria-class.

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TOPICS: Canada; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada; rcn; submarine; torpedo

HMCS Windsor, a Victoria-class submarine, sails with HMCS Montreal along the Atlantic seaboard in November 2005. (Department of National Defence/CP)

1 posted on 04/08/2011 9:03:38 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

That’s right. These subs have never fired a round in anger, so don’t spend any money on them. The Chinese aren’t a problem, never will be......... Besides, we don’t have a Pacific Coast any more, do we?


2 posted on 04/08/2011 9:15:41 AM PDT by Pecos (Liberty and Honor will not die on my watch.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Why didn’t they buy some British torpedos for the British Subs?


3 posted on 04/08/2011 9:16:26 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
That thing looks like a miniature toy sub. Here's what a REAL fast attack SSN looks like.....

USS Virginia (SSN 774)


4 posted on 04/08/2011 9:17:16 AM PDT by NWFLConservative
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To: sukhoi-30mki

And all this time I thought the Canadian navy was two Mounties in a canoe.....


5 posted on 04/08/2011 9:21:12 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
They would be better off parking their boats in harbors and wiring their generation capacity into local power grids.

Canadians with submarines capable of firing is like the insane being given steel forks.

All four of them are more danger to themselves than others.

6 posted on 04/08/2011 9:23:28 AM PDT by mmercier
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Never fire a Standard torpedo from a Metric submarine.


7 posted on 04/08/2011 9:29:00 AM PDT by Sawdring
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To: NWFLConservative

Are our subs still experiencing problems with the acoustic tiling coming off the hulls (glue failures)? Anyone know if things are getting better?


8 posted on 04/08/2011 9:31:48 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Sawdring

LMAO !

Stay Safe....


9 posted on 04/08/2011 9:57:28 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

“Upgrading armaments on submarines, which have never really patrolled, with no war imminent — I mean people have got to be questioning that.”

Scott, maybe you need to re-examine your premise.


10 posted on 04/08/2011 10:29:56 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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11 posted on 04/08/2011 10:47:25 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Obama and the left are making a mockery of our country.)
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To: hoosierham
Why didn’t they buy some British torpedoes for the British Subs?

Indeed.

12 posted on 04/08/2011 11:11:12 AM PDT by GATOR NAVY ("The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen." -Dennis Prager)
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