Posted on 04/07/2011 10:42:20 AM PDT by null and void
Caller Angela reams Rush up one side and down the other for not questioning Obama's bona fides back when it would have made a difference.
Telling him he and the pubies in high places owe us an apology and should hang their heads in shame for not calling his citizenship status into question before he was even nominated.
Rush got VERY defensive, sounded like a kid caught with his hand in the cookie jar...
Naaahhhh! They already know where I live, my daughter swore that our phones were tapped when she was growing up and we were living in OK during the Clintonista Era. But, knowing where I live will not help them. I am one of those Ayers described as being unable to re-educate. (was it 25 million that he spoke of?) Now the problem with that is, I am not getting in any boxcar, am armed and surrounded by friends who are worse than I am. Subjection of Texas has already been tried and it did not work out that well, some things do not change.
I am not sure his mother, Stanley Ann, was his mother.
I am not sure his father, Barack Sr., was his father.
I, therefore, do not know what role the supposed grandparents had in this whole scheme.
Which brings me to his family. I don't think I can even say his children are his children. It is one tangled weave.
Amazing isn’t it! And this bastard is exactly what democrats idolize, a liar, a fraud, a drug user, a bi-sexual, and a criminal ... the perfect democrap.
Angela rightfully so took Rush to the wood shed, like Donald did today on "Today," on Joe's Morning with Ed Rendell, Pat Buchanan and others!
Also Hannity was sent to the time-out corner on his today's radio-show!!
Rush was tap-dancing pathetically weak also and waded into the expected mode: "See, I told you so"!!!
RUSH: Angela in Arnold, Missouri, not far from St. Louis. Welcome to the EIB Network. Great to have you here.
CALLER: Thank you. Rush, I am incensed, truly incensed that you are so worked up and in a dither because Donald Trump is actually having the nerve to go after the validity of Barack Obama's birthplace.
RUSH: Wait a minute.
CALLER: And he's just not going to leave the issue alone. You've been chuckling about it because he's having so much nerve to just not leave this issue alone. And the fact of the matter is that his citizenship has been a suspicious issue from the very beginning, and not one high Republican or you has ever really tried to nail him on this issue, and if it does turn out that he is not a true citizen, then I think all of you should hang your heads in shame because of all the destruction our country has had to suffer ever since he was elected, in spite of being the fraud that we know he probably really is.
RUSH: So you're mad at me?
CALLER: I am furious. I wanted you and anybody else to go after him on this issue before he was elected. It would have been the easiest way to have stopped him. It would have been a no-brainer. But nobody would. And so he was elected and everything was just hidden under the rug. And now look what we have had ever since.
RUSH: Just a moment. There were court cases. Judges threw it out. Judges looked at it. There were any number of efforts made to get to the bottom of this.
CALLER: Well, how is Donald Trump gonna get anywhere with it, then?
RUSH: Well, why aren't you mad at Trump for not getting into it earlier? Why are you mad at me for pointing out what Trump said? How come you're not mad at Trump for not being on this for two years? Trump's a late arrival here.
CALLER: Trump is not the one who has the show that's supposed to be exposing all the political --
RUSH: Oh.
CALLER: -- mess in this country. You are.
RUSH: Yeah.
CALLER: You're the one who's supposed to be enlightening everybody, and you did not do as much as you could have done to enlighten us to how big a fraud Obama is, and, you know, if it does turn out that he's not a citizen, I think you should hang your head in shame, because our country has suffered so much --
RUSH: Now wait just a second, Angela. Throw this birth certificate business out, I gotta remind you there is no evidence whatsoever Obama was not born in Hawaii. There's something he doesn't want us to see about the birth certificate, but there's nothing to glom onto here other than his reticence in having the birth certificate seen. I am the only one who proclaimed the guy a fraud. I'm the one who did not go along with Obama. I'm the one who said I hope he failed. I'm the guy who took all the arrows for a whole Republican Party and everybody else for suggesting this guy was a fraud and filled with deceit, that he's not who he said he was on the basis of policy and the things that he had planned for this country.
CALLER: But the fact that there was no evidence was the very reason why you should have gone forward. I have evidence that I'm a citizen. Why didn't he have to produce the evidence? Nobody made him do it. Not even you, and you and everyone else should have made him provide the evidence.
RUSH: Okay.
CALLER: He shouldn't have been able to get away with that.
RUSH: So what do you want me to do now? You're mad at me for playing Trump. You're upset with me for --
CALLER: No.
RUSH: -- airing sound bites of Trump?
CALLER: I'm upset because now Donald Trump has to come in and do the job that you and the high-ranking Republicans in office should have been doing before the election.
RUSH: Well, look, he did produce a copy of the short form birth certificate which the government of Hawaii has vouched for as completely authentic. He did produce evidence which a state in this country said was good enough for them.
CALLER: Well, then why is there anything Donald Trump can be going after, why are we even talking about it? There must be an issue.
RUSH: You know, if I were afraid of this, as you are alleging, I wouldn't even be playing Trump sound bites, or if I were, I'd be making fun of Trump and telling him to shut up and go away, but I'm not.
CALLER: Well, he's apparently willing to take the risk of -- (crosstalk)
RUSH: Let me tell you something.
CALLER: -- in case it turns out that he's wrong.
RUSH: Okay, if you want to focus, Angela, on what should have happened before the election, we can do that, and I can focus on the stupidity of half the country that voted for the guy, and I can talk about all the stupid things the media said and all the tricks that were played to convince people that he's not who he was. But today it's 2011 and those days are over and we are living in the midst of this guy destroying the economy and going back and talking about a birth certificate right now is not the most effective way of stopping this guy. I would love nothing more than for this guy to be proven a fraud. I would love nothing more than for all of this to have been a giant trick. I would love nothing more than for him to get nabbed at this, but there isn't any evidence of it yet. I would love nothing more to see what happens when it's proven, if it could be, that he's not a citizen. What happens with legislation when everything he's done is unqualified, everything he's done is illegal. Everything he's done has gotta be wiped clean. Can you imagine that battle? I would love to see that.
You've got me pegged wrong here. But I deal with what is. I don't deal with what-ifs. "If" is for children. And we've got certain things that are the reality of the day that have to be dealt with, pure and simple, and that's where I am on this. No more and no less. There's no magic wand that can get Obama unelected. You can hope and you can dream but you are locked in a fantasy if that's what you're waiting for. That isn't gonna happen. The focus needs to be on making sure he's not reelected. But there is no way to unelect the guy. It isn't going to happen. Having said that, oh, yeah, I'm like all of you, I would love for this guy to be a total fraud when it comes to the birth certificates. He's a fraud on practically everything else. If he's born somewhere else, I would love for conclusive proof of that. That would be fun. Just to watch the Democrats and the media. That would be worth the price of admission and whatever they charge for it. But until such things happen, if, when, whatever, there's a reality that has to be dealt with day in and day out.
BREAK TRANSCRIPT RUSH: I think you'd have a tough time finding anybody who has spent more time, who's talked more about Obama's lack of records and his lack of school transcripts. The fact that he's not written anything as president of law review at Harvard, that's just unbelievable. A law review head honcho who doesn't write, who hasn't been published? His medical records? Every other normal document? Obama is clearly a very secretive person. He likes to make up stories about his life, as we just mentioned again today. He says he went out and pumped gas. His own! He didn't do it for a living, but he says it in such a way as to make it look like he had a job pumping gas. He never did. But you gotta understand, too:
The original claim that Obama was not legally qualified to be president was started by Democrat operatives, which is one of the things that made me suspicious about it. The claim got started by a guy named Larry Johnson, who's been a spokesman for the Democrat Party. He's the same lunatic who wrote a New York Times op-ed claiming we had no reason to worry about Islamic terrorists. This is about a month before 9/11. The guy who started the Obama birth certificate rumor, Larry Johnson, is the same guy who claimed he had tapes of Michelle Obama calling people "whitey." Now, this has not deterred me. The last time I got in trouble on this subject was (chuckles) I had a guy on the phone talking about Obama and "the messiah" and all this stuff.
I said, "Well, wait a minute. Don't be too quick to condemn Obama as a messiah because he's got a lot in common with God. God doesn't have a birth certificate, either." Well, I caught hell on the leftist blogs for that, if you will recall. You remember that? Yeah, "God doesn't have a birth certificate, either." So where is all this coming from that I have been a lapdog on all this? I have studied the issue. "Dear Rush..." I got an e-mail here during the break. "Dear Rush: What's it like? I can't imagine what it's like getting nagged from a woman on the radio that I wasn't married to. I'm very impressed at your composure. Gregory Kaplowitz." (laughing) Patience is my middle name -- and Kindness. I'm probably the politest host in the history of talk radio. I take great pride in that.
’ Why is it that not one person remembers seeing him at Occidental. “
John Drew Ph.D came forward last year with blockbuster interviews about his days as a Marxist with Barry at Occidental.
One is here-
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/02/meeting_young_obama.html
Drew is no longer a Marxist,
Barry ( as he liked to be called at Occidental ) has obviously never renounced his commitment to Marxism and revolution.
Another longer radio interview with Dr Drew here -
Dr Drew thought Barry was gay when he first met him because of the way he interacted with his roommate and keeper Hasan Chandoo.
Obama main support at Occidental was his wealthy patron, Mohamed Hasan Chandoo.
Drew thought Obama was gay and wealthy because of the nice clothes he wore and his closeness to Chandoo.
Barry’s other close friends at Occidental were Pakistani foreign exchange students-Hasan Chandoo, Sohale Siddiqi
and Wahid Hamid .
Hasan and his brother Askari and Hamid traveled with Barry to Pakistan.
Hamid and Chandoo have been guests at Barry’s Ramadan dinners.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/09/01/ramadan_dinner_at_the_white_ho.html
Heere’s a 2008 Freeper thread about Barry’s Pakistani Muslim foreign exchange student college friends and roommates.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2095574/posts
Doesn’t every college freshman befriend , live with and travel with Muslim foreign exchange students and Marxists ?
That his father was a British citizen. (this alone means Obama does not meet Constitutional qualifications.)
That Obama traveled to Indonesia, per his own words.
Interesting that when Congressman Allen West was asked about the birth certificate issue, his comment was that he would like to see the Passport that Obama used when he traveled to Indonesia.
Why would Congressman West say that?? Because one must have a valid birth certificate in order to obtain an American passport. But what if Obama’s passport was not from America....but from another country? That would mean that he gave up his citizenship and that there must be documentation of his regaining his American citizenship...if he ever had it to begin with.
He took a second oath in private.
There is no video, just a snip of an audio with a still image, no Bible:
Then there was this staged image, obviously faked, published on a website I will not link to
IS THIS WHAT THEY PLANNED TO USE? (AND COULD NOT USE BECAUSE THE VIDEO/AUDIO SNIP CAME TO LIGHT?) Remember, no cameras were allowed at the PRIVATE OATH!
See comment and staged, obviously faked,photo - it did not happen as shown in photo at # 225 , also check out video link.
Thanks, Fred Nerks.
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Think of all the "law schools" across the country whose academic leadership supports BO.
Think of it, while you choke back the tears for our nation.
Obama driven from office as a liar over natural born citizenship would make the time BIDEN had left on office dead on arrival and kill his election shot as well as probably have any thing obama signed into law successfully challenged
It would kill the dems as much or more than watergate hurt the gop
(Is it possible that Rush was using the caller....Playing the “devil advocate” to what she was saying?)
If Obama goes down the entire democrat party goes with him....That’s what they are protecting.
The left hates Rush because he tells the truth not because he goes to rallies, holds signs and gives speeches at Tea Parties. BOTH are needed to fight the enemy within, but good grief, people need to stop trying to force the best we have ( Rush and Mark Levin)and respect them for the tremendous job they do cutting through the BS and speaking the truth about bills being passed, the agenda of the left etc..
The woman caller could have used her time more wisely and gone out and talked to people she might know that will not wake up about Obama, instead of what she did with someone that aleady is a conservative.
If someone explained to Angela what you and I and most of the non-trolls at Free Republic, know, that “...it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves...natural born citizens,” (Minor v. Happersett, 1974) she would know that she was on the side of our founders and framers in being cautious concerning the allegiance of our President. Rush is correct. Obama can hide forever behind the lack of a birth certificate. There is no reason for Obama to produce one, and every reason to hide it. Though were it to become an issue in the coming elections, I suspect he will produce one. Right now, the birth certificate is too useful a distraction from his real problems.
When I hear Trump or Angela, presumably raising quesions about eligibility, I ask “Could they be working for the Obmaa camp?” As long as people are distracted from the truth that a non-citizen father absolutely negates Obama’s eligibility, there cannot be serious discussion; that is, I believe, the strategy being employed. Angela may have been a plant, and Rush is a very smart guy. He knows the truth. His grandfather and brother were/are attorneys. He can read. He will have been told by others. What he can expect, if he helps teach the truth, is SEIU thugs camped outside his home and office and Soros' enforcers scaring off his sponsors. Given the success of the Soros birth certificate red herring why should Rush stick his neck out to await the production of a birth certificate?
There is nothing hidden about Obama’s birth fo a British Kenyan. What is being avoided, by everyone, are the words of John Jay, John Marshall, Morrison Waite, James Wilson, Joseph Story, Vattel, Charles Evans Hughes and the Missouri Attorney, Breckenridge Long who exposed Hughes’ ineligibility, and who would have rasied it had Hughes prevailed over Woodrow Wilson, Hughs' non-citizen parents.
If Angela was not a plant, she provided the same misdirection, just as Trump is doing. A natural born citizen must have been born of parents with sole allegiance to our country, another definition of citizenship. Obama descended from someone, perhaps even both parents, whose allegiance was to working for our demise. Discussing any other issue diverts the public from the truth. Our framers clearly prohibited such a clear threat to our survival from becoming president. John Jay, who reminded Washington to include the restriction, wrote the first four Federalist Papers warning of foreign intrigue, and he clearly meant to include "global citizen" Obama.
The political context Angela does or doesn't get is was used by Breckenridge Long in 1916, when he wrote a careful brief, published in Chicago Legal News, the largest legal periodical in the Country, explaining that Charles Evans Hughes' was ineligible to become president because of his having British subject parents, Professor Gabriel Chin published a similarly thorough paper "Why Senator John McCain cannot be President of the U.S: Eleven Months and One Hundred yards Short of Citizenship" It was the subject of a dozen NYT and WaPo articles in the Spring of 2008. McCain was ineligible and every Democrat and Republican knew it. Republicans were trapped. If they raised the fact of Obama's non-citizen parents McCain's birth on non-sovereign soil is a well known fact.
What they did shows the disdain both parties have for citizens. They passed a resolution of the senate SR 511, April 2008, asserting that McCain should be considered a natural born citizen because his parents were both citizens. They knew then that this assertion would invalidate Obama if it were applied to him, but they knew too that no one would raise the issue in Congress. Perhaps someone will some day own up, and explain who orchestrated the silence. Now they must all lie to keep their jobs.
Verify the citations made here on FR, by rxsid,Patlin, danamco, and so many others, and teach the truth to those who still think we should retain the old Constitution. Obama is not our President for very public reasons. He sits in the office thanks to corrupt politicians and a thoroughly corrupt media. This is the alternative medium and we must use it to educate those who don't understand what it means to be a natural born Citizen. Learn why our framers and founders were so adamant about it, along with a dozen justices and half a dozen chief justices, and every senator in 2008.
Here is some more information and links
Hmm…An AP story from 2004 entitled Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate has been discovered on archive.org by many sites (and twitter where I got this). Does this mean now that the AP is nothing but a bunch of birthers?
Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations. ...
See the whole Obama 1964 divorce on Scribd.com or as 13 individual images below (in proper order):
I immediately called the clerk in Hawaii and asked where the extra page was. She looked, and counted, and said that there must be some mistake in the records she counted only 13 pages that are available for reprint. I pointed out to her that the page count she sent skipped from page 10 to page 12 page 11 was missing. To that, she suggested that perhaps the pages were simply misnumbered before they where archived into the microfiche.
I accepted her answer, not thinking much about it at the time. Perhaps it was just a clerical error in the 1960s, when hand-filed paper records and IBM punch cards were how court documents were tracked and maintained.
I have since come to learn that Obama and his team of lawyers have been working to sanitize his records since he announced that he’d run for President circa November 2004. Now in the White House, hes still ACTIVELY blocking subpoenas for such documents as his Cambridge and Occidental College records TODAY the same type of documents promised to be made available during his campaign. Obama and his lawyers are exceedingly adept at exploiting loopholes in Hawaiian birth certificate law to keep Obamas past hidden from the American people.
This missing page page 11 very likely is a copy of the original birth certificate, based upon the prima facie timeline of the 1964 divorce. The Kenya birth certificate was likely requested on Jan 23, 1964 by either Judge King (to award custody on the next trial date), or recommended to Ann Dunham by her attorney for the ex parte divorce, where only one parent was expected to be present.
The missing page, 11, should be chronologically-numbered as all other pages were in the original docket file, by the court clerk at the time. Starting at page 8, Exhibit A is placed where it would have occurred by date in the paperwork (and appeared on microfiche), even denoting an erased, yet barely-readable “8″ on both pages of the returned notification sent to Obama SR. The missing page, numbered as page 11, would likely be a page that would have been admitted to the divorce file sometime in mid- to late-February 1964 almost as if it were an undocumented Exhibit B.
Heres a very plausible timeline merging the 1964 Obama Divorce papers and new Kenya birth certificate:
Jan 20 (Mon) divorce request is filed by Stanley Ann D. Obama
Jan 23 (Thur) divorce orders for trial are given by Judge King at chambers
In Hawaii, birth certificates are not Public Record. If the Kenya birth certificate was a part of the divorce decree, it may have been pulled out at the end of the trial, or more recently by a watchful archivist or attorneys wishing to remove unfavorable information about Obama.
To date, despite other honest attempts to refute the Kenya birth certificate, such as dealing with when the Republic of Kenya came into existence as a republic have been un-bunked. Dishonest alterations of the Kenya birth certificate have been maliciously created by sites such as Democratic Underground, designed to discredit the Kenya birth certificate theyve been un-bunked as well.
Having not actually seeing the Kenya birth certificate, and its chain of evidence, no intellectually-honest person can say if its real or not. By the same token, none of us have seen or touched the short-form Certification of Live Birth that has appeared on Obamas Fight the Smears or FactCheck.org websites.
No one can confirm the chain of evidence of Obamas Certification of Live Birth that has appeared online, which is the abbreviated-version of Obamas true, 1961, original long-form(s) Certificate of Live Birth and associated vital statistics records. Even the Hawaii Department of Health directly refuses to verify Obamas online COLBs.
The Eighth Witness, Lucas Daniel Smith,
Case CLOSED!!!
Didn't our Heavenly Father, through our Savior tell us...
How well we deserve this curse (~so shall the LORD bring upon you all evil things~) God has given us,
through the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT IN CHIEF, the FASCIST Obama.
Someone once ask, "When is violence for political purposes justified?"...
I recommend the following for your valuable time, to ponder... (all 37 pages)
All things written in the Bible must come to pass,
and we WILL get to the day worse than has ever been.
And this too shall pass...
Can you remember reading about "a thorn in their side"?
The command I await is...
I heard that 0bama’s “neighbor” Bernardine was fairly accomplished at it.
When people make this argument of " the best chance of getting him out of office", I immediately reach for the troll spray. The fundamental issue here is defending The CONSTITUTION and RULE OF LAW!
Bill Clinton's impeachment was NOT about sex. It was about perjury in court and trashing the rule of law. This too is about the rule of law and defending the Constitution! If Obama is a natural born citizen he has every legal right to be in the White House. The only way to get rid of him would be through impeachment which would be very unlikely.
The rule of law and the Constitution must be defended regardless of the likelihood of the outcome. It must be defended at all times and in all places. ALWAYS! Regardless of the cost in time, treasure, lives, or puny considerations of winning the next election.
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