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Breyers' Framingham facility closes its doors
metrowestdailynews.com ^ | 04/03/2011 | Danielle Ameden

Posted on 04/03/2011 7:49:07 AM PDT by massmike

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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

Thanks for the comment.

It is tough...I get a lot of comments on this forum, things like “I hope all you Massholes die, and your state rots and falls off of the earth”, that kind of thing. It bothers me, because there are more conservatives that you would think up here, though we end up communicating with secret handshakes and the like lest the secret police catch on to our thought crimes...:)

I used to say the same kind of things about California, how I hoped it would slide off into the ocean in “The Big One” and such, but...that was a classic case of wearing your faults on your back. I don’t do that anymore, because I know there are a lot of good, steady conservatives from that state.

I love this area. It is beautiful, just beautiful. It breaks my heart to see the liberal politics finally having the kinds of destructive effects we all know it will have.

I hope I live long enough to see the pendulum swing the other way. One can always hope.


41 posted on 04/03/2011 8:54:29 AM PDT by rlmorel (Capitalism is the Goose that lays The Golden Egg.)
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To: EDINVA

“sent home a day early to avoid mischief”

Exactly. Smart business move.
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Yes it is and especially since they gave them all their money.
When I was Supt or Foreman of medium to large Asphalt Companies I used to get ticked when you would fire someone they would make them wait until the regular payday to give them their money.
I did understand it was mostly to make sure someone in ‘need’ of a couple of bucks wouldn’t commit a ‘fireable’ offense etc but I looked at it as if you made the guy wait a couple of weeks for his money, he just has time to ‘stew’ will end up visiting the offices etc then come in with an attitude on pay day.
I figured, fire them, pay them off and for the most part you were done with them as they would ‘move on’.


42 posted on 04/03/2011 8:56:12 AM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98) "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits")
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To: catnipman; All
The comments under the linked article have some interesting information. I was wondering why the cost of water would be prohibitively high anywhere in the Northeast (where there is plenty of natural rainfall), but it looks like there's been a simmering sewage treatment disaster in Massachusetts for some years now.

Oh, well -- it looks like Massachusetts' loss is Tennessee's gain.

43 posted on 04/03/2011 8:56:41 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: MCF

It might be the way the regulations on the treatment of waste water are written, how “waste water” is defined and how a company might have to pay for that. Another state might not treat the waste water the same way, where in Massachusetts, they might require it all be treated as sewage.

Just guessing, I don’t really know.


44 posted on 04/03/2011 8:57:20 AM PDT by rlmorel (Capitalism is the Goose that lays The Golden Egg.)
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To: rlmorel

rlmorel:

Additionally, Framingham has been turning into a third-world pit for the past twenty years, and that transition is nearly complete. You would never walk through the downtown at night now, and driving through it is unnerving. Streetlights out, bars on windows, hookers, dingy buildings and trash on the streets, one of those places. It used to be a nice middle-class town, safe and clean.

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Sounds like Benton Harbor, sister city to St. Joseph ... Benton Harbor was disaster in 1978 when I had opportunity to be through there a number of times ... so sad, a couple decades before it was a lovely little lake-side town ...

Map:
http://maps.google.com/maps?client=opera&rls=en&q=benton+harbor+mi&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=Benton+Harbor,+MI&gl=us&ei=vZaYTcygO8jj0gHptqjwCw&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CCUQ8gEwAA


45 posted on 04/03/2011 8:58:59 AM PDT by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the favored tools of the weak-minded.)
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To: _Jim

I hate liberalism. I hate it from the roots of my being. I feel that nearly every major problem we face as a country (and Massachusetts as a state) has its roots in many of those types of policies.

Damn it all.


46 posted on 04/03/2011 9:02:27 AM PDT by rlmorel (Capitalism is the Goose that lays The Golden Egg.)
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To: xrmusn

AND, in this case, they were closing down the plant so every last employee was losing his/her livelihood. That would leave LOTS of room for mayhem. Not that this particular group of employees would necessarily act out, but better safe than sorry. The equipment and other property is still valuable.

I once worked for a federal govt agency that was vacating its downtown location after close of business on Friday, moving into a new building when we reopened on Monday. In fairness, the building was going to be demolished, but, omg, how everyone totally trashed in a celebratory fashion what was there! I doubt they’d have done it if new tenants were moving in ... but in any case, as an employer or business owner, I’d want them out sooner rather than later. Then close the facility.

In this case, I think Unilever handled the entire transaction very well. Lots of notice about the closing, then pay them, and close it out a day before expected. I do wonder, tho, where they can produce more cheaply? Are those jobs and the ice cream production going overseas? I don’t want my ice cream from China!


47 posted on 04/03/2011 9:26:59 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: MCF; All

I don’t know how different it is elsewhere, but here, your sewer charges are calculated directly by how much water you use. You take 10 gallons of fresh water from the state, they charge for 10 gallons of raw sewage.

Might be the same everywhere else...anyone comment on that?


48 posted on 04/03/2011 9:32:46 AM PDT by rlmorel (Capitalism is the Goose that lays The Golden Egg.)
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To: _Jim

You asked: “Where would this ‘elsewhere’ be for the production of ice cream?”

and I’m guessing: China or maybe Mexico, if they can get away with it. Just like me to think the worst...

And I love Breyers ice cream and their new yo-yogurt. Now I’m not sure I want to buy it any more. Though since I just started a diet, I won’t be buying any ice cream for a while, if ever again... My hunger is bring out the worst of me. . .


49 posted on 04/03/2011 9:33:25 AM PDT by This I Wonder32460
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To: MCF

Why would they need a better quality water just for cleaning?

I will say this. Soft Drinks with real sugar tastes better in Harriman, Tn than anywhere I’ve ever been. Of course they DO use water as an ingredient.


50 posted on 04/03/2011 9:35:08 AM PDT by Terry Mross (Only a SECOND party will get my vote.)
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To: rlmorel

Wow ... took a Google drive down Business Loop I-94 thru Benton Harbor ... many empty lots now on that route now, some new or renovated buildings/structures ... not like I remember it at all in ‘78 - ‘79


51 posted on 04/03/2011 9:37:11 AM PDT by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the favored tools of the weak-minded.)
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To: catnipman
“BTW, don’t you just love how this bleeding-heart article fails to mention anything other than the cost of water as being the cause of the move?”

Never forget that our media,(print and broadcast) are unionized.

52 posted on 04/03/2011 9:38:45 AM PDT by fella (.He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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To: massmike

We don’t need no stinkin capitalist pig ... Greedy. Selfish. Did I say Pigs? Right, Deval?

Besides, ice cream is bad bad for you. Right, Michelle?


53 posted on 04/03/2011 9:48:27 AM PDT by eens (beware the errors of Russia)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

Absolutely and...we just got it here in Colorado and it is selling like hot cakes!!!


54 posted on 04/03/2011 10:05:16 AM PDT by cubreporter
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To: EDINVA

Are those jobs and the ice cream production going overseas? I don’t want my ice cream from China
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I think the article said to a new facility in Covington TN..
Notice - business friendly and Right to Work state.

I get(got) a kick out of the ‘Southern Mills’ raising hell when the clothing manufacturers moved to Taiwan, Bangladesh or wherever. They seem to ‘forget’ that back in the early/mid 1900’s those plants were located along the rivers etc of New England...where the ‘unions’ found them and organized...
Rest is history...


55 posted on 04/03/2011 10:06:57 AM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98) "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits")
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To: WePledge

They’ll now be making my favorite flavors in my favorite state,Tennessee. We have no state income tax,cheap power,
workers with a decent education and a business friendly
state govt.

Dittos!! And let that be a lesson to other states....
Tennessee is a great place to live and work....


56 posted on 04/03/2011 10:17:57 AM PDT by murrie (For God so loved the world, that he gave His only begotten Son..........)
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To: rlmorel

I lived near Philadelphia for a few years but didn’t hate the State because of the liberals - I live near Houston and don’t hate Texas because of those stupid liberals - hang in there- we need conservatives to stay in those liberal areas just in case, someone, somehow, gets smart and sees the truth! Folks like you are the only way we would EVER hear about anything remotely conservative in Mass.!


57 posted on 04/03/2011 10:30:17 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA ("Elections have consequences...." Barry O. Thank you Scott Walker and WI Republicans!!)
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To: MinuteGal

“I tried Breyer’s ice cream once.

First and last time.”

For all of us fortunate to live in Publix Supermarket served areas, the results of a Miami Herald ice cream test will be of interest. The chefs invited to a blind test of vanilla ice cream overwhelmingly chose Public Natural Vanilla Bean over all the “premium” brands.

The Otter Paws is also superb. Rather addictive though.


58 posted on 04/03/2011 1:09:04 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: GladesGuru
Publix has great ice cream. My store has a cherry of some kind that is exquisite. I wish they would package in the round cartons, though....the big cardboard boxes are too unwieldy and hard to reseal.

Yum, yum.

Leni

59 posted on 04/03/2011 2:41:56 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Obama....you'll have to pry my incandescent lightbulbs from my cold, dead fingers!)
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To: massmike

Breyers vanilla is the best vanilla you can buy at the store - and cheaper than the $5 cone at Marble Slab.


60 posted on 04/03/2011 8:46:29 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Wanna learn humility? Become a Pittsburgh Pirates fan!)
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