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It's one thing to never hear back, but when they won't reimburse for travel per previous agreement, that's just sleazy.
1 posted on 03/29/2011 5:45:40 PM PDT by buccaneer81
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i grew up in Acton MA and worked in the northern VA area for about 10 years.

yes, people are that sleazy... at a minimum.

i’ve had headhunters try to get me fired from the job i was in so they could put me on a contract they had.


2 posted on 03/29/2011 5:50:14 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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Pendulum swings. Such firms can survive doing this during this economy and job market, but they will die when the situation normalizes.

I have experienced the worst treatment when looking for a job I have ever experienced at any level of doing the most menial work as a kid. My wife got relocated and I had to quit and leave my job of many years.

The degree of apathetic indifference which mid level managers base their decisions on when it comes to managing the company's assets, lines of business, and staff is creating a future nightmare for firms. The key for these managers is to operate under the radar. When these firms need strong leadership to regrow lines of business and services, they are doomed.

4 posted on 03/29/2011 5:59:22 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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This is a BS article. The HR types don’t say “No” (1) in case a candidate they chose does not turn out well and they need a back-up, and (2) in case they are challenged or worse still, sued over a ‘refusal’. And yes, overwork/laziness may be in there as well when you may get 1,000 applicants for a position.


5 posted on 03/29/2011 6:00:28 PM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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I don’t think of your average HR person as being the FR type.


6 posted on 03/29/2011 6:01:29 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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We once had a candidate who concluded and interview with "Please, I need this job". We didn't think he was up to snuff by that point. We felt horrible and it took a very long time to respond to him with a rejection.

I still feel bad. Sad thing is, it almost immediately eliminated him as a candidate.

We REALLY felt uncomfortable after that and who wants someone who has no problem putting you in an extremely difficult situation even before you hire them?

7 posted on 03/29/2011 6:01:58 PM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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Sorry that people get their feelings hurt but the only thing that should be important is landing a job.


9 posted on 03/29/2011 6:04:01 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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but when they won't reimburse for travel per previous agreement,

File a claim against them in small claims court.

21 posted on 03/29/2011 6:23:31 PM PDT by glorgau
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Tom Fleming is over 45, any questions?


23 posted on 03/29/2011 6:31:34 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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HR doesn't hire, the hiring managers do. What does the HR do? I don't remember any layoffs in the HR Depts. of companies I worked for. I recall seeing many poofters there, but that's really irrelevant. (Or is it?)

Still, the function of HR is to (underlined) reject candidates, and to handle the layoffs. When a company, like say, Google, receives thousands of resumes a day, who do you think screens them and rejects the majority of them? HR. When your main function is rejecting (the hapless applicants and those laid off), that kinda affects your thinking, doesn't it. Let's not kid ourselves about the true function of HR.

26 posted on 03/29/2011 6:37:51 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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I’ve heard of some great “bait and switch” tricks the HR people have tried on.

One is to offer a good paying job locally, then when people apply, to offer them a job in ‘Podunk’ at less than half that.

Another is to offer a “training wage” or “probationary period” at much less than full pay.

The CEO of one company suspected hanky-panky in his HR department, so he sent his nephew to interview with a perfect resume. Not only did the HR guy try to stick it to him with below standard pay, but sensing someone who really wanted the job, he demanded a kickback for hiring him. The nephew hesitated, then agreed, so sensing weakness, the HR guy hit on the nephew sexually.

When the nephew refused, the HR guy tried to bully, then threaten him that he would never work in that town again unless he agreed to the sex act. The nephew left, so, true to his word, the HR guy wrote up a scathing report on him, even accusing him of petty theft.

Soon the company had a new HR chief. The nephew. The old HR guy then sued the company for unfair dismissal. Their legal department was briefly concerned until a dozen employees came forward to complain about the old HR guy.


29 posted on 03/29/2011 7:20:34 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Then, there's this...
31 posted on 03/29/2011 7:32:12 PM PDT by pabianice
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I think HR types are behaving differently than in the past. When I was looking for work a few years back I was shocked at the lack of common courtesy. I’m doing okay now, but I recall being offered jobs on at least three occasions, but was never able to start due to some inexplicable lack of internal approvals. Been through the multiple interviews without any definitive rejection letter or response - in some cases received gratuitiously rude rejections. I think that some basic level of courtesy has eroded across society. I’m not an HR type, but do make a point to respond to every phone call/e-mail even if only in a cursory way as to do otherwise would be rude. HR people that do otherwise should be fired and perhaps learn some manners.


34 posted on 03/29/2011 7:45:22 PM PDT by purplelobster
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I think things changed when Personnel was changed to Human Resources. They cut out the person.

I've been in the position to sidestep HR for the last twenty or so years, but it hasn't prevented me from seeing how they operate. My current employer has one fully staffed (and most likely overstaffed) department and that is HR. The problem is that they have no idea of what the jobs involve and that there are certain types of people who fit certain jobs. They look to see if they have a degree and it doesn't need be in a related field. Ever see a 40% turnover in the course of a year?

Of course there is also the other problem with our HR department. Half the time when you go there for information, they're closed for a baby or wedding shower, a department trip to the outlet stores or a baseball game.
36 posted on 03/29/2011 8:16:09 PM PDT by Free_SJersey (Celebrate Diversity------------ Divide and Conquer?)
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I had this exact experience with two different Fortune 500's after my "retirement" following three and four interviews, both having engaged VP's by the time they commenced ignoring me.

One of these companies was large computer and printer maker where I had three interviews for a position as a project manager and then dead silence. I learned later from a friend at the same company that the position had been filled by a Russian twenty-five years my junior and in all likelihood I had just been H1B "due diligence".

The next company flew me to Texas FOUR times for interviews and told me after the final interview they had checked my references and were preparing an offer and like the first I never heard from them again. My follow-ups went unacknowledged and about a month later I found a post on a blog that the company had hired a guy away from Motorola for a strikingly similar position.

Eventually I came to realize I was just too old, too white and too heterosexual to be considered employable by an American company.

When the Chinese came for me it was completely different, they flew me and my wife to China first class and while I discussed business and toured the company a couple of the executives english speaking wives gave my wife the grand tour of Shanghai. We left with an agreement they have not deviated from.

42 posted on 03/29/2011 9:42:04 PM PDT by WalterSobchak2012
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