Posted on 03/28/2011 11:47:51 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
Donald Trump, who has been making television appearances calling for President Barack Obama to release his official birth documents, on Monday released his birth certificate exclusively to Newsmax.
The document released to Newsmax is below. It showed Trump was born in New York, June 14, 1946.
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“Remember how he is hitting on the fact that no one knows what Hospital Obummer was born in. No doctors who were at the birth have come forwarded.”
If he’s playing rope-a-dope with the long form BC, fine by me. But I think the argument that no doctors have come forward is lame. An OB-GYN delivers thousands of babies over a career. Why should this particular one stand out 50 years later as being something memorable? Hawaii claims that HIPAA precludes its releasing the long form BC, so I doubt some bureaucrat is going to risk their job and/or jail time by contacting the doctor listed on the long form BC to alert them that they had delivered a future POTUS. Thus, absent publicity, why would even a doctor who was practicing OB in Honolulu way back when necessarily think s/he was the one who delivered Obama? The administration can’t even provide a straight story about which hospital he was born in.
On a related point, Trump has already tossed out bone-headed comments about not having seen any pictures of Obama before age 14. Yet we all know that such pictures exist, so it weakens his credibility to be ruminating about such easily fact-checked stuff. Once people see some of the infant pictures of Obama in conjunction with Trump’s absurd claims, they will properly begin to wonder “Gee, if he’s wrong about that, maybe he’s wrong about the BC too. Maybe that COLB posted on-line is legit after all and Trump’s just a partisan trying to stir up trouble.”
The fact is, for anyone following the story, Trump’s “facts” are old news. He isn’t persuading ANYONE who already knows there’s a big problem, nor those who are convinced the COLB is genuine. The only group he can persuade are those who haven’t paid attention to the issue, for whom a simple question “why not just show us the BC?” seems quite reasonable. And that’s a group that by definition has a very short attention span (else they’d have given this issue some thought long ago).
So IMHO, Trump is playing a risky game here. I’m glad he’s raising the visibility of the issue, but if he bobbles it, that’s going to make it that much riskier for some other high profile person to try and keep the issue alive.
My guess is that he’s seen something big. He probably shouldn’t have seen it, so he’s not going to just come out with it. He’s instead dripping bits at a time to try and get someone to squeal.
Well its not exactly a long form; correct. However, it is at least a tad better than what Obama produced. If you enlarge it you can see that its signed by the attending physician. That can easily be checked for accuracy.
We’re still waiting on the name of the witch doctor who delivered Obama .... ;)
You are correct. The Donald is doing this just right. Step by step so the public can follow along what he is doing. And the “What’s the big deal, I’m showing mine” works very well.
That’s been debunked.
give it some time....you won’t have to wait too long...:)
The Big Boo
Fake.
You know how I can tell? In Britain they write the date month first, then day, so August 7 would be 7/8/61, not 8/7. Since Kenya was a British protectorate, they’d have almost certainly used the same date format.
you got all that right... get out the popcorn. The fun is just getting started
McCain sure had to! They also had to have a Senate resolution 511 written up to affirm that McCain was in fact a Natural born citizen. And lo and behold Bambi and Clinton were part of the big 4 or 5 if you count McCaskill that signed it.
SRES 511 RS
Calendar No. 715
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110th CONGRESS
2d Session
S. RES. 511
Recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen.CommentsClose CommentsPermalink
IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES
April 10, 2008
Mrs. MCCASKILL (for herself, Mr. LEAHY, Mr. OBAMA, Mr. COBURN, Mrs. CLINTON, and Mr. WEBB) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the JudiciaryCommentsClose CommentsPermalink
April 24, 2008
Reported by Mr. LEAHY, without amendmentCommentsClose CommentsPermalink
April 30, 2008
Considered and agreed toCommentsClose CommentsPermalink
RESOLUTION
Recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen.CommentsClose CommentsPermalink
Whereas the Constitution of the United States requires that, to be eligible for the Office of the President, a person must be a `natural born Citizen’ of the United States;CommentsClose CommentsPermalink
Whereas the term `natural born Citizen’, as that term appears in Article II, Section 1, is not defined in the Constitution of the United States;CommentsClose CommentsPermalink
Whereas there is no evidence of the intention of the Framers or any Congress to limit the constitutional rights of children born to Americans serving in the military nor to prevent those children from serving as their country’s President;CommentsClose CommentsPermalink
Whereas such limitations would be inconsistent with the purpose and intent of the `natural born Citizen’ clause of the Constitution of the United States, as evidenced by the First Congress’s own statute defining the term `natural born Citizen’;CommentsClose CommentsPermalink
Whereas the well-being of all citizens of the United States is preserved and enhanced by the men and women who are assigned to serve our country outside of our national borders;CommentsClose CommentsPermalink
Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President; andCommentsClose CommentsPermalink
Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be itCommentsClose CommentsPermalink
Resolved, That John Sidney McCain, III, is a `natural born Citizen’ under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States.
“New York State Vital Records does not file and cannot issue copies of New York City birth certificates. For births that occurred in one of the five (5) boroughs of New York City (Manhattan, Kings (Brooklyn), Queens, The Bronx and Staten Island), you will need to place your order with the New York City Department of Health.”
Was Trump’s birth in one of the 5 boroughs of New York city ? He may not have a state certified long form.
His Hospital form does contain the necessary information to vertify he was born there.
Yes, in Jamaica, Queens.
Its too bad people dont read and understand..like you.
The Donald was born on Flag Day.
exactly right.
Just go to any Post office that processes passports. Ask the poor clerk how many times they see these hospital certs and have instruct the applicant how to get a proper government issued certificate.
A safe guess is that 50% of folks think the hosp. cert is their birth certificate. Trump is showing people what they can relate to.
Trump’s lawyers and politcal team have gone over every detail of what he is saying and releasing....this has been practiced, and scripted. Right now the focus is controlling and organizing the requests for access for Trump. Yes his publicity team is lining up all the interviews.
Can you imagine the quality of the talent Trump can afford on his teams? boggles the mind. That’s why this is so damned seamless and smooth. That don’t happen in today’s media by accident.
The Big Boo
At least Trump’s birth certificate has a doctors signature.
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