Posted on 03/27/2011 7:51:44 AM PDT by bushpilot1
CNN/U.S. President Jon Klein told staffers of "Lou Dobbs Tonight" the controversy over President Barack Obama's birth certificate is a "dead story."
Klein wrote in an e-mail to staffers Thursday that CNN researchers had determined Hawaiian officials discarded paper birth documents in 2001. Thus, he said, Obama's long-form birth certificate no longer exists, and a shorter certificate that is public is the official record.
"It seems to definitively answer the question," Klein wrote in the e-mail, first reported by the Web site TVNewser. "Since the show's mission is for Lou to be the explainer and enlightener, he should be sure to cite this during your segment tonite (sic). And then it seems this story is dead -- because anyone who still is not convinced doesn't really have a legitimate beef."
Klein said Friday he was not ordering CNN staffers to drop the story and that if developments merited more coverage, it would be pursued, the Los Angeles Times reported.
"When I use the word 'seems,' that's an open invitation to disagree," Klein told the Times.
On his show Thursday, Dobbs mentioned the explanation from Hawaiian officials but then questioned why Obama has not shown a long-form birth certificate, the newspaper said.
Thanks for posting the link. One thing all governments and bureaucracies have in common: they love paper work and most retain records forever.
Thanks for the clever laughs! I literally LOL!
I’ve said it before to no avail, but maybe a few more of you will get it if I keep repeating it. The individual with the greatest interest in keeping the Birther story alive is Obama.
His strategy - which helped him win the Presidency - is to portray all criticism him and his statist policies as the product of ignorant, racist conspiracy-mongering. To that end, he and his friends in the media such as MSNBC keep the Birther story alive - hoping it will help him in 2012 as it did in 2008. The great majority of conservative and libertarian opponents of Obama see that the Birther issue is a distraction that can only benefit Obama, and want no part of this idiocy.
Klein forgot to cc Trump on that one. LOL!!!
Off to Saratoga
“His strategy - which helped him win the Presidency - is to portray all criticism him and his statist policies as the product of ignorant, racist conspiracy-mongering.”
What proof do you have of this claim?
“The great majority of conservative and libertarian opponents of Obama see that the Birther issue is a distraction that can only benefit Obama, and want no part of this idiocy.”
What proof do you have of this assertion? Polls would suggest otherwise.
Background:
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2008/Dec/22/ln/hawaii812220320.html
She did not know Obamas mother, Ann Dunham, while they were in labor together on Aug. 4, 1961, at the old Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital.
But (Eleanor) Nordyke was a population research fellow at the East-West Center while Dunham was there.
Reference: Eleanor C. Nordyke Population Specialist
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2513997/posts
She recalls that Obamas birth notice was published several days before her daughters notice, even though Obamas mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was admitted to Kapiolani Hospital after Nordyke entered the hospital. Obama was born on a Friday, and the Nordyke twins were born on a Saturday, she said.
Nordykes late husband, Dr. Robert Nordyke, was an internal medicine specialist at Honolulus Straub Clinic.
My daughters birth certificates were 10637 and 10638, and Obamas was 10641, so his mother must have come in after I did, Nordyke said, though she never met Obamas mother.
The obvious answer is that the MainStreamMedia simply hate the very idea of the Republic as set up in 1787,and that they are committed to destroying the United States as a free nation.
Miracle Max: He probably owes you money huh? I’ll ask him.
Inigo Montoya: He’s dead. He can’t talk.
Miracle Max: Whoo-hoo-hoo, look who knows so much. It just so happens that your friend here is only MOSTLY dead. There’s a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead there’s usually only one thing you can do.
Inigo Montoya: What’s that?
Miracle Max: Go through his clothes and look for loose change.
Klein is also the one who fabricated or repeated the axelgreasy lie that all paper records had been destroyed when the electronic COLBs were produced in Hawaii. He had Lou Dobbs tell that great lie on CNN airtime more than once knowing it was a complete lie. Scum has a way of filthying up the surface of a pond ... Klein is scum, but he’s the dead soul scum the owners of CNN want in charge so they can ‘herd’ the masses foolish enough to trust them.
Then why is he addressing it as a dead story... Kind of like those who wish for there to be no God, run around chanting, “God is dead, God is dead...” which begs the question, “if you don’t believe in God, how can you proclaim Him to be dead?” The implication is that God must really exist, at least in the minds of those who wish him not to exist.
In the same way, the “non-story” of the birth certificate, of which there has been no proof of existence, is now a “dead-story”, only begs the question; What proof can you provide that there is a (really-really-real) birth certificate? and if there is non, how can you proclaim it to be a dead story? It is a stalemate at best, and as long as there are questions, it remains a story... as long as you say, “pay no attention to the man behind the curtain”, people will be looking at the man behind the curtain.
Nope see #17
Yu would think that an organization like CNN could come up with a better excuse than "The dog ate my homework."
Paper might be gone, but the records arent.
Exactly. Here are a few things from Hawaii that support that. From the Department of Hawaiian Homelands brochure:
The state Department of Health, the state Archives, and the state Bureau of Conveyances are just a few places where you can look for and obtain primary and secondary documents. Certified copies of records can be obtained for a fee.
How do they define primary documents?
Birth certificates (Certificates of Live Birth and Certifications of Live Birth) and Certificates of Hawaiian Birth are the primary documents used to determine native Hawaiian qualification.
Okubo said:
...all information for births from 1908 (on) was put into electronic files for consistent reporting
That just proves that all the information in the original Certificate of Live Birth is still available. How do I know this ? It is the law in Hawaii. From the Hawaii Revised Statutes:
92-31 Disposition of original record. A photograph, microphotograph, reproduction on film, or electronic form of a government record shall be placed in conveniently accessible files and provisions made for preserving, examining, and using the same. Thereafter, a public officer, after having first received the written approval of the comptroller as provided in section 94-3, may cause such record, paper, or document to be destroyed. The comptroller may require, as a prerequisite to the granting of such approval, that a reproduction or print of such photograph, microphotograph, or reproduction on film, or electronic form of the record be delivered into the custody of the public archives for safekeeping. The comptroller may also require the delivery into the custody of another governmental department or agency or a research library of any such record, paper, or document proposed to be destroyed under the provisions of this section.
So, either the original microfiche copy is still available or a complete reproduction of it in electronic form is available. To put something in electronic form and not copy all the data on the original document would be against the law. Where these files have to be accessible and provisions have to be made for examining them, it would be misleading for the Department of Health to say that the information on the original Certificate of Live Birth is no longer available. Under Hawaii Revised Stautes 338-18, those with a direct and tangible interest in the record are permitted inspection of public health statistics records. That would include either the microfiche or electronic copy of the original Certificate of Live Birth.
Now, how about Obama's school records and a ton of other documents he has spent millions to hide? Have they been destroyed too? Are they not newsworthy?
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