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CT Considers Confiscating ‘Large Capacity’ Magazines
NRO ^ | 03/23/2011 | Daniel Gelernter

Posted on 03/23/2011 7:44:40 AM PDT by OldDeckHand

Today, a Connecticut bill banning “large capacity” magazines will have its first public hearing. Six other states have such bans in effect, though no state has demonstrated its ban has had any effect on crime.

The states disagree on what constitutes “large capacity”: 10 rounds in California, 15 in New Jersey, 20 in Maryland. Connecticut says 10 rounds; its definition of “large capacity” magazines is copied almost word for word from California law. But there is no reason outside bureaucratic whim for one definition over another. People who have such magazines haven’t necessarily gone out to buy them specially — a compact 9mm pistol might come with a 13-round magazine as standard. Anyway, the concept of a “large capacity” magazine is meaningless: capacity depends on the size of the cartridge — a larger caliber means fewer rounds.

This is a typical example of legislators making rules concerning a subject about which they know nothing.

The California law also has something that Connecticut’s version lacks: a grandfather clause. Anyone in California who had a large capacity magazine prior to the law’s enactment was permitted to keep it. And since there is no way to determine when most magazines were made or who bought them, the grandfather clause renders the magazine ban unenforceable. Anyone bent on obtaining such a magazine can still drive to a neighboring state, buy it there, and claim he had it all along.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: banglist; democrats; donttreadonme; expostfacto; firstamendment; guns; liberalfascism; nazistate; unconstitutional
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1 posted on 03/23/2011 7:44:46 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

Another bill looking for a problem.


2 posted on 03/23/2011 7:46:48 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: OldDeckHand
no ex post facto laws!
3 posted on 03/23/2011 7:47:10 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (For the first time in my adult life, I'm scared of my government.)
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To: OldDeckHand

Oh, those magazines! I thought this was a green story and they were banning the Sears catalogs the the likes.

But it’s still not good.


4 posted on 03/23/2011 7:47:38 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: OldDeckHand

Isn’t something like this against freedom of expression as outlined in our US Constitution and Bill of Rights?


5 posted on 03/23/2011 7:50:34 AM PDT by scorchedearther
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To: OldDeckHand

You never want an armed government and an unarmed populace. Remember Tienanmen Square.


6 posted on 03/23/2011 7:50:52 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: OldDeckHand
I seem to remember something about EX POST FACTO.....they might try to arbitrarily confiscate them but it would not be a crime to have owned them. Regardless, they'd have to try and track down what I bought and then come looking at their own risk.
7 posted on 03/23/2011 7:51:08 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: OldDeckHand

Just to be sure, they should probably consider sending at least 31 people to confiscate each 30 round magazine...


8 posted on 03/23/2011 7:51:48 AM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: OldDeckHand; All

Did these legislators ever hear of fast reloads?

Next it will be a limitation on magazines.....no more than 10 cartridges allowed on your person. Not only is this an ex post facto law, it clearly violates the 2A.

The fact that this is even being considered is an abomination.

There should be a law passed by someone in congress with cajones enough to do so, that ANY legislator in this nation who puts forth anti-2A legislation will have their armed security removed. Period.


9 posted on 03/23/2011 7:53:43 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (For the first time in my adult life, I'm scared of my government.)
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To: tsowellfan

Wouldn’t this also constitute censorship considering it is a magazine, published written material and the SCOTUS has made numerous rulings against censorship.


10 posted on 03/23/2011 7:55:09 AM PDT by scorchedearther
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To: Red in Blue PA

Limitation on magazines should read limitation on cartridges


11 posted on 03/23/2011 7:55:23 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (For the first time in my adult life, I'm scared of my government.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
There should be a law passed by someone in congress...

We don't need no stinkin' law passed by Congress. We have certain inalienable rights endowed to us by our Creator!

12 posted on 03/23/2011 7:56:48 AM PDT by Obadiah (If you were going to shoot a mime, would you use a silencer?)
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To: Obadiah

Legislators who pass laws denying us certain rights should lose theirs.

Why would anyone argue with that?


13 posted on 03/23/2011 7:58:11 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (For the first time in my adult life, I'm scared of my government.)
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To: Gaffer

Democrats and Republicans in congress don’t care about the US Constitution so why would you think they care about EX POST FACTO?


14 posted on 03/23/2011 8:00:37 AM PDT by stockpirate (Rebellion to tyranny is obedience to God!)
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To: Graybeard58; neverdem

CT gun grabber ping.


15 posted on 03/23/2011 8:00:52 AM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: yldstrk

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear LOW CAPACITY arms shall not be infringed.


16 posted on 03/23/2011 8:05:48 AM PDT by TauntedTiger (Keep away from the fence!)
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To: stockpirate

I agree, but at some point “citizen law” needs to take place. Citizens enforcing their own rights, regardless of what the current establishment dictates. Myself, I’m waiting for the day they rise up on their own accord, but it will have to get very bad before that happens.


17 posted on 03/23/2011 8:07:37 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: OldDeckHand

The only way to get them is a door-by-door or no-knock warrant. No records on them at all.

Wanna see a civil war erupt ?


18 posted on 03/23/2011 8:08:59 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: Celerity
Wanna see a civil war erupt ?

Sometimes I fear this might be the only way to return to an acceptable form of governance.

19 posted on 03/23/2011 8:19:18 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Celerity

Not necessarily or at least in the way I think you’re talking about. They can do all this a bit at a time w/o much fuss/resistance from the populace. After all the electorate seems to agree w/ the pols since they elected them...right? I think what the pols are hoping for is a high profile case or 2 will scare the remainder of the sheep into giving up their hardware. This coupled w/ the medias blackening of the parties involved completes the picture. Things like this could never happen if the media didn’t supply the smokescreen. In the end I strongly suspect this idea won’t make it into law BUT the fact the pols even considered it is a dire warning to the gun owners in CT. Then again perhaps there are few if any who love their freedoms there...I dont know.


20 posted on 03/23/2011 8:22:49 AM PDT by 556x45
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