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Why Fukushima made me stop worrying and love nuclear power
The Guardian ^ | 03/23/2011 | George Monbiot

Posted on 03/23/2011 7:34:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

You will not be surprised to hear that the events in Japan have changed my view of nuclear power. You will be surprised to hear how they have changed it. As a result of the disaster at Fukushima, I am no longer nuclear-neutral. I now support the technology.

A crappy old plant with inadequate safety features was hit by a monster earthquake and a vast tsunami. The electricity supply failed, knocking out the cooling system. The reactors began to explode and melt down. The disaster exposed a familiar legacy of poor design and corner-cutting. Yet, as far as we know, no one has yet received a lethal dose of radiation.

Some greens have wildly exaggerated the dangers of radioactive pollution. For clearer view, look at the graphic published by xkcd.com. It shows that the average total dose from the Three Mile Island disaster for someone living within 10 miles of the plant was one 625th of the maximum yearly amount permitted for US radiation workers. This, in turn, is half of the lowest one-year dose clearly linked to an increased cancer risk, which, in its turn, is one 80th of an invariably fatal exposure. I'm not proposing complacency here. I am proposing perspective.

If other forms of energy production caused no damage, these impacts would weigh more heavily. But energy is like medicine: if there are no side-effects, the chances are that it doesn't work.

Like most greens, I favour a major expansion of renewables. I can also sympathise with the complaints of their opponents. It's not just the onshore windfarms that bother people, but also the new grid connections (pylons and power lines). As the proportion of renewable electricity on the grid rises, more pumped storage will be needed to keep the lights on. That means reservoirs on mountains:

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: earthquake; energy; fukushima; japan; nuclear; nuclearpower; passtheplutonium; please; radioactivespinach; radioactivesushi; radioactivewater; whats4dinner
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To: SeekAndFind
From what I have read, the 40 old reactors, designed in the 1960’s shut down during the quake as they were supposed to do. Diesel generators were supplying power for the cooling systems after power was lost because of the shutdown and loss of incoming power from outside sources. It was only when the tsunami rolled in and flooded these diesel generators and floated away the fuel tanks is when the problems started. Battery backup lasted a few hours, then both the reactors and the pools where spent fuel is stored started to overheat.

The real problem appears to be the placement of the emergency generators and their fuel tanks. If these were placed above the tsunami waters, we wouldn't be talking about this now.

Remember, these plants have been running for 40 years. There is much better technology today. There are also Thorium reactors, which we invented, and the Chinese have the wisdom to build for themselves. These plants are super safe.

Nuclear has to be part of the solution to the energy dilemma. Remember, there are those who want us (the serfs) to go back to a late 1800’s lifestyle.

21 posted on 03/23/2011 8:37:21 AM PDT by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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To: A. Patriot
As someone in an earlier post has already posted, here is a good article explaining what happened.

http://bravenewclimate.com/2011/03/13/fukushima-simple-explanation/

22 posted on 03/23/2011 8:44:08 AM PDT by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
I don't know where people get this idea the Pebble Beds are some magic answer. Read this article to see the real world experience and some very serious safety issues with them.

In addition, South Africa has pulled the plug on the pebble bed development program after blowing a lot of tax payer money. The entire program was shut down.

The concept may have some potential, but at this point, there are some major technical issues that need to be overcome as well as finding a way to make the design commercially viable. One thing for sure, it is not some magic bullet.

23 posted on 03/23/2011 8:52:43 AM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: agere_contra
Monbiot has left himself quite a legacy. It was in his honor that the term ‘moonbat’ was coined. It is nice to see though that he does have at least a few working brain cells.
24 posted on 03/23/2011 8:53:57 AM PDT by JPG ("2012 Can't Come Soon Enough" - Sarah Palin)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

“Okay,,, if the Brits were eatin’ Lampreys, they’re officially nutz!”

The pilgrims probably ate eel at the first Thanksgiving, too ;)


25 posted on 03/23/2011 9:25:12 AM PDT by Boogieman (")
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To: Boogieman

King Henry I of England is said to have died from eating “a surfeit of lampreys”.

Guess I’ll have to try them then! I’ve had Eel, just not Lampreys. Eels are really hard to clean, si I usually have the Chinese fish monger do that part.


26 posted on 03/23/2011 10:37:22 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Boogieman
The pilgrims probably ate eel at the first Thanksgiving, too ;)

When I was a kid at Boy Scout camp on Cape Cod, MA, someone caught an eel. We cleaned it, put it on a stick and cooked it over a campfire. It tasted like chicken.

27 posted on 03/23/2011 11:06:53 AM PDT by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Yeah, I’ve never had them, I just remember that they found remains of cooked eels when they did some dig at Plymouth Rock back in the 80’s or so. I tend to stay away from most seafood except fish, and I really don’t even like that much.


28 posted on 03/23/2011 2:00:42 PM PDT by Boogieman (")
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To: Boogieman

I go to the Chinese grocery for my fish. I can get Tilapia and eels live. They clean them, I eat ‘em! The good thing is, they don’t come from China, they come from Erie, Pa..


29 posted on 03/23/2011 2:52:29 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Yeah, seafood from China would be dodgy to say the least.

There’s a Philipino store near my work that carries all that stuff. I can smell the place from a block away if I’m downwind.


30 posted on 03/23/2011 3:31:27 PM PDT by Boogieman (")
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To: Boogieman

One thing I really like is that the fruit and veggies are abdo-lutely first class, and the prices are MUCH lower than in my local Giant Eagle.


31 posted on 03/23/2011 4:05:57 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

I wish there was a safe way to process the waste. All we are doing now is stockpiling it. This stuff as is will be toxic for thousands of years. Just sayin’.


32 posted on 03/25/2011 6:56:08 AM PDT by freebird5850 (Of course Obama loves his country...it's just that Sarah Palin loves mine!)
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But expanding the grid to connect people and industry to rich, distant sources of ambient energy is also rejected by most of the greens who complained about the blog post I wrote last week in which I argued that nuclear remains safer than coal. What they want, they tell me, is something quite different: we should power down and produce our energy locally. Some have even called for the abandonment of the grid. Their bucolic vision sounds lovely, until you read the small print.

At high latitudes like ours, most small-scale ambient power production is a dead loss.
Moonbat Monbiot couldn't care less about humanity's health. He's probably a Malthusian who wants more death anyhow. It's all about centralized control of energy, making masses dependent upon a few elite experts.
33 posted on 03/26/2011 1:57:40 PM PDT by Milhous (Lev 19:18 Love your neighbor as yourself.)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

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34 posted on 03/31/2011 12:19:38 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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