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Since when does the UN authorize the US to go to war?
Israpundit ^ | March 19, 2011 | Ted Belman

Posted on 03/20/2011 8:20:01 AM PDT by EternalVigilance

Andrew C. McCarthy says Go to Congress first before warring against Libya.

    On Thursday evening, the U.N. Security Council voted 10–0 (with five abstentions, including China, Russia, and Germany) to authorize the use of military force (i.e., “all necessary measures”) against Libya. Ostensibly, the resolution is designed to protect the Libyan people. But not to mince words, it is a license for war against the regime of Moammar Qaddafi. It would kick hostilities off with a no-fly zone over Libya. As a practical matter, American armed forces must do the heavy lifting if the strategy is to have a prayer, and indications are that [Alleged] President Obama intends to oblige.
    There is a catch: The Security Council is powerless to “authorize” the U.S. military to do a damned thing. The validity of American combat operations is a matter of American law, and that means Congress must authorize them.

    Our Constitution vests Congress with the power to declare war. That authority cannot be delegated to an international tribunal that lacks political accountability to the American people. The decision to go to war is the most significant one a body politic can make. Thus the Framers designed our system to make certain that the responsible officials are answerable to the people whose lives are at stake and who are expected to foot the bills.

and concludes

    But there should be no debating that absent a hostile invasion of our country, a forcible attack against our interests, or a clear threat against us so imminent that Americans may be harmed unless prompt action is taken, the United States should not launch combat operations without congressional approval.

But James V. Capua in Obama and the Libya decision has a different take.

    Barack Obama finally has a war he can believe in. The intervention in Libya promises to conform just about perfectly to the president’s world view. He hastened to declare in his Friday afternoon statement what it would not entail– no US troops on the ground, and somebody else will lead it.

    Now at first glance it might appear he is merely being cautious – limiting our exposure to minimize any unfortunate foreign or domestic fallout should the television images get unpleasant, but one cannot help but suspect that the motive is less to minimize the US role than it is to exalt that of the UN and other supra-national organizations, such as the Arab League, and all of the NGO camp followers that normally feed off such international coalitions.

    Additionally, this action promises finally to use American military power in the kind of international relief and social service agency capacity Obama’s internationalist foreign policy team would like it to be, its mission unsullied by grubby considerations of national interest. One observer has already compared it to the international intervention in Kosovo, intervention that delivered the Kosovars into the hands of UN and EU caretakers, despite their declaration of independence.

    [..]

    Even more significantly Obama’s world view requires victims to be serviced, and not winners to be supported. As long as the Libyan rebels had a chance to prevail, they were of little value to a messianic narcissist bent on removing the “Incomplete” from his Nobel Peace Prize citation. Pitiful, battered, pleading Libyans huddled around Benghazi are the prerequisite for making this this intervention work politically. In just the same way Obama and Pelosi needed the image of sick, desperate, hard up Americans to make the case for ObamaCare, the Stimuli, and financial services “reform.”

    [..]

    War without victory, intervention that produces dependency, Americans shouldering the burdens but obscured in a fog of UN acronyms, a maze of rules of engagement and process that squeezes every last bit of spirit and motivation out of warriors, it may not be a strategy, but it sure as hell explains the motivation.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Extended News; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: breachofpowers; libya; obama; unconstitutional; usurper; warpowers
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To: Col Frank Slade
That is just what Denny does. Although, he was standing next to LaTourette when it looked like he was trying to object to the certification of the Electoral College, so who knows.

Hitlery certainly does not seem to be all that happy with the current chain of events ... and she looks like hell.

81 posted on 03/20/2011 11:13:42 AM PDT by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: Daffynition

There WAS an article here

http://www.futureworldcurrency.com

on Obama getting the NWO new currency as a gift I can’t find anymore.


82 posted on 03/20/2011 11:19:41 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

I clicked on your link and my virus software IDed the site as * dangerous* ...sorry.


83 posted on 03/20/2011 11:22:36 AM PDT by Daffynition ( DBKP ~ Death By 1000 Papercuts)
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To: Daffynition

Sorry I see no such warning.


84 posted on 03/20/2011 11:31:04 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: paulycy
Don't dispair.


85 posted on 03/20/2011 11:34:03 AM PDT by Daffynition ( DBKP ~ Death By 1000 Papercuts)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

No problem ..I use Trend Micro... for whatever reason, the site wasn’t opened.


86 posted on 03/20/2011 11:36:03 AM PDT by Daffynition ( DBKP ~ Death By 1000 Papercuts)
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To: EternalVigilance

I believe a majority of Americans supported our involvement in Iraq at the start, because a long legal basis was formed. Saddam violated the terms of the ceasefire, shot at our planes, hid WMD etc.

That turned around soon after, however. From then to now a majority of Americans feels Iraq was a mistake.

And I believe Obama has blundered politically with Libya; a majority do not support this adventure.

Obama’s anti-war voters will skip voting for him again.


87 posted on 03/20/2011 11:41:58 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Daffynition

That is kinda strange that the supposed official NWO currency page shows that. I hope Im not getting viruses from it.


88 posted on 03/20/2011 11:47:01 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: EternalVigilance

Surely you jest!!! Ever since the Usurping Islamo-terrorist Onada took over the Oval Office the US has been a defacto UN entity.


89 posted on 03/20/2011 11:48:29 AM PDT by dools0007world
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To: truth_seeker

Time will tell.


90 posted on 03/20/2011 11:51:01 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Pay heed to your principled position and you won't have to worry about your political position.)
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To: paulycy

I rarely agree with this view of the U.S., but now I do in the case of the U.S. beginning a third war in the Middle East and the disaster that will follow. However, I do not agree though that Rep. King’s congressional hearings are a ‘witchhunt’ since he is trying to protect us here in the U.S.

Libya: Another quagmire beckons.

In the short space of a decade, the U.S. has made war in three Muslim nations, and Canada in two. For many Muslims, any just cause for these conflicts is beside the point. Shoddy affairs like Rep. Peter King (R-NY)’s congressional witchhunt on Muslims are easily enough overlooked in Karachi and Jakarta. But Western military attacks on sovereign Muslim nations can’t help but appear to many of the world’s estimated 1.2 billion to 1.6 billion Muslims - or about 20% of the world population - as a determined assault on the Muslim world.

http://thestar.blogs.com/davidolive/2011/03/libya-another-quagmire-beckons.html


91 posted on 03/20/2011 12:21:22 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Just A Nobody
Hitlery certainly does not seem to be all that happy with the current chain of events ... and she looks like hell.

She has had to ingest several "warm bowls of $hit" on behalf of the Obozo circus.

She deserves a 2nd helping with "secret sauce".

92 posted on 03/20/2011 12:22:52 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: rockinqsranch
This is IMO another assault on American sovereignty. Another Leftist sleight of hand move to set Leftist precedence shifting more undeniable authority to the United Nations.

I think you've analyzed this dog's breakfast perfectly.

This was a called play, a setup.

Obama knew he was going to pull this for months, as soon as the Arab world started to present a host of phat targets for his policy coup.

The House of Representatives needs to impeach him right this minute, and put the Senate on the hot seat on this issue. After all, it's the Senate's constitutional duties and prerogatives that Obama is invading as much as, or more than, anyone's -- what ever happened to "advise and consent"?

We know what the 'Rat senators would do in an impeachment trial -- but it would sure clarify the issues for a ton of "Reagan Democrats" in time for 2012.

93 posted on 03/20/2011 12:49:43 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: EternalVigilance

What has our nation come to?


94 posted on 03/20/2011 12:51:23 PM PDT by XHogPilot
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To: dragnet2
What about the war in your own backyard?

Are you so distracted by this Obama campaign event decoy and U.N. one world police action, you failed to notice?

More people are being killed and wounded, right on the Mexican/Texas border, not to mention Mexicans are causing epic harm to our economy, are choking off our medical system and have killed, raped, robbed shot, stabbed, and ran over tens of thousands of Americans ...


At the very least our northern and southern borders should be manned by troops with orders to shoot to kill.
95 posted on 03/20/2011 12:52:42 PM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: XHogPilot
What has our nation come to?

The brink of dissolution and destruction.

And the most severe dangers are from within, not from without.

96 posted on 03/20/2011 12:56:16 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Pay heed to your principled position and you won't have to worry about your political position.)
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To: Billthedrill
Nobody could’ve said it better; many thanks for your thoughtful post.
97 posted on 03/20/2011 12:59:46 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: tcrlaf
In a single act, he has exposed the utter hypocrisy of all the years of anti-war stances held by the Democratic Party and the liberal left.

It was NEVER really about the wars, it was only about hurting Bush, and getting a Radical Democrat elected as President of the United States.

Bears-repeating bump. I agree, this needs to be taught to the voters from now until Election Day 2012.

And the House needs to impeach Obama to put the Senate Dems in a corner (force them to defend their Pres_ent).

And the state legislatures need to vig-up their sec'ies of state to require them to certify, investigate, and guarantee the bona-fide credentials of every candidate for national office. No birthee, no listee. Including Obozo especially!!

98 posted on 03/20/2011 1:06:10 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Agree your post. Good one.


99 posted on 03/20/2011 1:06:28 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Yorlik803

>>We in the citys aint slackin either.
I see a UN blue helmet, I kill the man wearing it.<<

Soon, those UN blue helmets will be standard issue to what we once called ‘our troops.” Now they are UN troops fighting under the UN flag even if they aren’t wearing it.


100 posted on 03/20/2011 1:30:55 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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