[marktwain]

Banning private sales of firearms is a step well on the way to national registration. National registration is functionally equivilant to confiscation:

GUN REGISTRATION IS GUN CONFISCATION (old but good)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2608785/posts

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Ask a Brit.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

I'd like a "new discussion" about birth certificates and being born with dual-citizenship and the consequent ineligibility issues.

[RC one]

Give to the NRA NOW!

[trapped_in_LA]

Yep it’s coming sooner or later we will be just like the UK and people will be wetting their pants if they see a stray 22 round sitting in the street (actually happened complete with a picture of the brave mangina that called the police). Sad how feminized the west has become and contrasts interestingly with the over masculinized Muslim countries, kind of like a bizarre ying yang type of situation. Best you can do is prepare to hide your guns and ammo but what good are they then? Kind of like the Scots that hid their swords in the roof thatching only to be found hundreds of years later when they re-roofed.

And for all those “cold dead hands” types look at what’s happening in Libya, small arms cannot and never will win a conflict, even the American revolution required plenty of heavy arms (cannon, warships, etc.) supplied by the French. Hate to say it but the culture war has been won and the feminist/metrosexual socialists have largely succeeded in stripping us of our constitutional rights. It is only a matter of time, 10 years, 20 years, who knows but it will happen and we will be reduced from citizens to subjects.

[Blood of Tyrants]

The “discussion” is always the same; give the government more ways to infringe upon your right to keep and bear arms.

[coloradan]

I really hate to say this, but the good news is that 0zero is President. It will be a lot easier for squish Republicans to oppose his calls for ‘closing’ the so-called gunshow “loophole” than it would be for them to oppose it if McStain had been elected. McStain, you will recall, wanted to line up all the articles in the Bill of Rights and knocking them down one at a time, The First Amendment with his McStain-Feingold Campaign Finance “Reform” bill, and The Second Amendment with ‘closing the gunshow “loophole”’ bill. For all we know, his next plan would have been the Bringing Soldiers Home from The Rain act, which would have stipulated how soldiers were to be quartered in people’s houses in time of peace.

[Repeal The 17th]

I am 60 years old.
Over the years I have bought many guns and I have sold many guns.
The guns I have bought from a certified bonified gun dealer have a paper trail attached to them.
The guns I have bought or sold to/from an individual do not.

Most of the guns that I have bought from a certified bonified gun dealer,
that have my identity attached to the paperwork,
I honestly do not know where they might be now.
I gave some of them as birthday presents or Christmas presents,
I sold some of them,
I traded some of them,
I can remember one that was stolen,
and one that was lost in a river (honest to god serious).

Some are locked away in a trunk...
(what a surprise they will be for my children and grandchildren to discover)

More than a few I really, honestly, have no idea whatever happened to them.
I have loaned then, sold them, swapped them, and whatever.

I have never looked at a gun as anything more than a tool.
How many hammers and screwdrivers have I bought over the years?
Do I know whatever happened to all of them?

Oh, I have a derringer that I bought many years ago as a gift for my father in law and then many years later after his death, his children found it in his possessions and returned it to me...
I have that one put away...somewhere...not sure where...
The “paperwork” for that one “knows” that I am the one who bough it from the dealer
but the “paperwork” does not “know” that it was not in my possession for 30 years.

[backwoods-engineer]

Amen. As I have said before in other threads about Obama banning private sales and banning firearm heirlooms, THIS IS A HILL TO FIGHT AND DIE ON. This is the whole ball of wax, the whole 2nd Amendment. We must stop this.

[Still Thinking]

Throw in the political class’s inability to address high-capacity magazines, and it’s all another mark of how decisively conservatives have won the gun control wars, and of how far off the rails the national conversation about guns has strayed.

This is a confusing sentence. First he says conservatives have won decisively, then he turns around and says the nation has strayed! Try to keep a coherent thought for at least one complete sentence, dude....

[chainsaw56]

This has been posted around a few places, but it’s a good run down on what we’re facing, It’s a response to E.J. Dionne’s use of the term ‘baby steps’ in creeping towards more gun control:

“What Obama endorsed were, well, baby steps toward strengthening background checks”

You know it’s kind of dumb for Mr. Dionne to use a term like baby steps – the clear implication is that this is just the beginning of a plan that certainly will have confiscation as it’s end goal in mind.

The disarm the law-abiding crowd’s way over used term commonsense at least implies that at least this initiative won’t be part of a ongoing scheme or scam.

As someone else posted on another site pointed out, this commonsense baby step means that the sale of your private property will now fall under the influence of the Feral Government.

A measure to control ALL gun transaction by the government along with the ‘registering’ of this information in a database means that Gov. will now have a proto-registration system.

In effect, you will now need the government’s ‘Permission’ to obtain a means of self-defense, from anyone and anywhere. Instead of being able to simply sell your own personal property, you will now have to turn it over to an FFL so that they can charge you a nominal fee and have the government grants it’s blessing over the sale.

So much for property rights.

A parent won’t be able to hand down some of their property to their children – it’ll have to run its course through the federal bureaucracy.

Does anyone really believe that once the Feds have a hand in any lawful firearm transaction and a database of such a transfer, that the won’t start to us such device to pare down the numbers of people who can defend themselves?

Does anyone believe that they won’t start abusing this device to control your 2nd amendment rights?

Does anyone believe that they won’t start intimidating gun owners with threats of publishing this registration data as they are in Illinois?

Does anyone believe that they won’t start requiring periodic taxation of your guns?

Does anyone believe that they won’t start requiring periodic registration of ALL of your guns?

Does anyone believe that they won’t eventually use this registration database to confiscate guns?

[GYL2]

Another oldie but goodie: Registration is the same as Confiscation, the only difference is where the guns are stored.

Banning private sales of firearms is a step well on the way to national registration.

That has to be repeated.

The fact is that the forcible disarmament cretins see Federale authority over every gun transaction as the one BIG step to confiscation through the intermediate step of registration.

If the gun grabbers can pull this off, they immediately have a way of permanently recording the possession of every occurring gun sale from now on AND the means to turn every other gun owner into an outlaw.

Make no mistake: This baby step is that powerful.

Some don’t want to think about this too hard and don’t want to oppose this commonsense move by the gun grabbing Fascists.

Is EVERY freaking new infringement on our rights termed commonsense?

It’s a cold hard fact of life that the bad guys don’t wear signs that let you know who they are.

It’s also a cold hard fact of life that Socialists will outright LIE about their true intentions and make you think this is just a minor change in how things work, that it’s just “Commonsense” and it won’t be a burden.

But if you examine the true implcations of what Obama and the gun grabbers want to do here, you will understand the danger to your freedom this really is.