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The Problem with Primaries. The weakest part of our political system is how we choose nominees.
National Review ^ | 03/17/2011 | Michael Barone

Posted on 03/17/2011 7:02:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The weakest part of our political system is the presidential-nomination process. And it’s not coincidental that it’s the part of the federal system that finds least guidance in the Constitution.

There is no provision in the Constitution that says that Iowa and New Hampshire vote first. The idea of giving any two states a preferred position in the process of choosing a president would surely have struck the Framers as unfair.

But we are stuck with Iowa and New Hampshire voting first because no politician who contemplates ever running for president — i.e., most politicians — wants to arouse the ire of the political and journalistic establishments of Des Moines and Manchester.

Another feature of the nominating system is that it tends to exclude those with experience in foreign and military policy, the two areas in which presidents tend to have the greatest leeway.

Dwight Eisenhower did have such experience. And Richard Nixon, Lyndon Johnson, Gerald Ford, and George H.W. Bush had been vice presidents with varying degrees of involvement in foreign policy and military command.

But the other six presidents of the last 60 years had to learn by doing. And Ford’s ascent came not through the nomination process but through the 25th Amendment.

A third problem is that the lengthiness of the nomination process — the permanent campaign, as Sidney Blumenthal dubbed it long ago — means that a president, and the nation, may be stuck with an agenda set as much as ten years before he leaves office.

And that’s in the best case, when a candidate presents a series of policy initiatives to caucus-goers, primary voters, and the general electorate, and then tries to follow through in office, as George W. Bush and Barack Obama can claim to have done.

In the worst case, a candidate briefly captures the imagination of impressionable activists and voters with personal glamour and vaporous rhetoric, and then edges ahead of his rivals to clinch a nomination in a good year for his party.

That’s what some people think happened in 1976 with Jimmy Carter, though I think that’s unduly harsh. Certainly it’s a fair characterization of what might well have happened in 2008 if John Edwards had gotten a few more votes and come out ahead of Barack Obama as well as Hillary Clinton in the Iowa caucuses.

None of the politicians currently or possibly running for the 2012 Republican nomination seems to be a shameless charlatan like Edwards. But none except for former Utah governor Jon Huntsman has hands-on foreign-policy experience either, and he obtained his as Barack Obama’s ambassador to China.

The potential candidate who sparks the strongest emotions is Sarah Palin. But her non-spectacular showings in polls suggest that many Republicans, while agreeing that she has been unfairly treated by the press, believe she cannot win. The fates of Sharron Angle and Christine O’Donnell may have been instructive here.

The candidate whom some pundits call the front-runner, Mitt Romney, is hobbled by the fact that the agenda he put together in 2005–06 for his 2008 candidacy contains elements that are undercut by his previous record (on abortion, for example) or are out of line with Republican voters’ current thinking (Romneycare).

Romney and Mike Huckabee, good-humoredly fluent and seemingly happy as a Fox News host, both lost the 2008 nomination to a candidate whose strategy was to wait for all the other candidates’ strategies to fail. Not a good augury for 2012.

Others carry baggage from the past. Newt Gingrich is sidling up to a candidacy with, as always, a raft of new ideas — many of them good — and some brilliantly penetrating insights, but not much discipline. Rick Santorum, having lost his Senate seat by a 59 percent to 41 percent margin in 2006, is campaigning on the conviction that cultural conservatism will be as important to Republican voters in this cycle as it was from 1988 to 2000.

Tim Pawlenty, Haley Barbour, and Mitch Daniels approach running with records as two-term governors and with the chance to propose fresh agendas. But for the moment they’re overshadowed as congressional Republicans try to seize the initiative on major policy.

It is easy to see at least one reason why each of these potential candidates must lose. But our unsatisfactory nomination process, for all its faults, is a zero-sum game in which one player must win.

— Michael Barone is senior political analyst for the Washington Examiner


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: nomination; politicalsystem; primaries

1 posted on 03/17/2011 7:02:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

That is because of political parties. They are not in the Constitution.

In the early days, the President was usually of one party and the VP was the runner-up, usually from the opposition party.

The P-VP party ticket system evolved later.


2 posted on 03/17/2011 7:07:00 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: SeekAndFind

ping for later


3 posted on 03/17/2011 7:16:40 AM PDT by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind
It was the primary system that gave us John "RINO" McCain for a candidate last time around, in a popularity contest heavily influenced by our very own right-of-center media darlings.

Thanks, guys. We owe you one.

4 posted on 03/17/2011 7:21:24 AM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The primary system is a subsidy to the two political parties.

I just don’t see why the state should be involved in and have to pay for the process of choosing the party nominees.

Especially with the INTERNET.

Here is an idea: The reality show model.
Every registered voter who is also a donating member of the Republican party gets to vote on every Tuesday, May, June, and July. Each week a candidate or two goes home until we have our nominee. That would be at least be more interesting less alienating then the current system.


5 posted on 03/17/2011 7:29:49 AM PDT by The Free Engineer
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To: TomGuy

Just until Aaron Burr screwed it all up by going for the top job instead of second banana.


6 posted on 03/17/2011 7:30:34 AM PDT by gusty
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To: SeekAndFind
True - check out Get Out Of Our House for a new and different way to select candidates from the people.

GOOOH is about bypassing political party machines and selecting folks from the neighborhood. If you don't think this can work, you need to attend a "mock session" with GOOOH and experience how it works.

7 posted on 03/17/2011 7:30:34 AM PDT by tentmaker
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To: The Free Engineer

Exactly. It is no business of anyone but the members of a political party in how they select their candidates. The government should have no role in primaries or whatever the parties chose to select candidates. The idea to have unaffiliated voters participating in the primaries always struck me as absurb.


8 posted on 03/17/2011 7:35:32 AM PDT by gusty
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To: The Free Engineer
The primary system is also a cash cow for every U.S. media outlet. It won't be long before the first primaries and caucuses will be held in the later months of the year before the election.

There's no reason why the candidates for each party that qualifies to be on the ballot in any state can't be selected in July or August of the election year.

9 posted on 03/17/2011 7:39:53 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Because Iowa is the first primary (caucus), we burn corn and starve the world.


10 posted on 03/17/2011 7:46:30 AM PDT by chopperman
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To: SeekAndFind
How does America end up with some voters having a kind of divine right to decide who represents the parties and who does not?

AB80 in CA will move our presidential primary to June 5 meaning we're assured of no say whatsoever in the nominees.

Moving us up to the first Tues. in Feb meant nothing in '08 since it was down to Mitt and McCain with McCain already inevitable at that point so we shouldn't even bother showing up to polls until Nov '12 if even then.

11 posted on 03/17/2011 7:50:45 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama, recreating-in-chief until Fri, Jan. 20, 2017.)
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To: SeekAndFind

One of the weakest part of our political system is the presidential-nomination process is that far to many select a nominee on looks and sweet words and not on experience in foreign and military policy and logic.
It’s a shame the tell me what I want to hear mod vote,see Obama&Co.


12 posted on 03/17/2011 8:43:16 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: SeekAndFind
The strongest part of the Primaries is the TpCaucus..
AND its growing strongly in most places even in places you would not expect..
{Jaws theme)
13 posted on 03/17/2011 8:49:51 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: SeekAndFind

Everyone else chooses the nominees but the voter. That should change.


14 posted on 03/17/2011 9:07:58 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: SeekAndFind
I vote that Texas should choose the candidates because the rest of the country has gone nuts.

I'm already starting to break out in hives because Romney might get the nod. What will I do then?

15 posted on 03/17/2011 9:12:13 AM PDT by chuckles
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