Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The Cook Report: Trend or Fluke? New poll shows independents warming to role of government
National Journal ^ | 03/12/2011 | Charlie Cook

Posted on 03/12/2011 12:01:01 PM PST by SeekAndFind

I only get to celebrate special days like my birthday, wedding anniversary, Thanksgiving, and Christmas once a year, but I can rejoice every month or so when an NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll comes out (yes, this is sadly true). The survey, conducted by Democrat Peter Hart and Republican Bill McInturff, two of the most experienced and respected pollsters in the business, contains a treasure trove of data, most of which never appears on the air or in print.

Luckily for psephologists (yes, this is a word, meaning “students of elections”) and political junkies, both NBC News and The Wall Street Journal release the full questionnaires online. This allows mere mortals to peer over the shoulders of top political pollsters and peruse data not dissimilar to what campaigns see. (Although, I am an NBC News political consultant, this isn’t just sucking up; it’s true.)

One of my favorite questions tests public attitudes toward government’s role. The version that Hart and McInturff use gives respondents a choice between “Government should do more to solve problems and meet the needs of people” or “Government is doing too many things better left to businesses and individuals.” The order is alternated to prevent bias.

Back in 2007 and mid-2008, the government-should-do-more camp was a slight majority, in the 52-55 percent range; the government-doing-too-much position was in the 38-42 percent range. Starting a month after Lehmann Brothers collapsed in September 2008 and when credit markets seized up, the results tightened up. The more skeptical view of government pulled ahead in the September 2009 poll, 49 percent to 45 percent. In the national exit poll taken by various news organizations on Election Day 2010, the government-should-do-more response dropped to 38 percent, and the more antigovernment attitude soared to 56 percent.

The government-should-do-more camp is once again a majority.

However, in the latest NBC/WSJ poll of 1,000 adults (including 200 by cellphone; overall margin of error plus or minus 3.1 points), conducted from February 24-28, 51 percent of respondents said the government-should do more and 46 percent said the government was doing too much. One could conclude that the antigovernment bandwagon certainly isn’t picking up speed.

More important—and I have to give NBC Political Director Chuck Todd credit for pointing this out to me—independents shifted significantly. In the February survey, 47 percent of independents said the government was doing too much, compared with 60 percent who said so last October. Independents who said the government should do more jumped 13 points, from 38 percent to 51 percent.

Story Continues Below Graphic

Why is this important? Because independent voters are the ones who matter most in American politics. More than 90 percent of Democratic voters can be expected to vote Democratic, just as more than 90 percent of Republicans reliably vote Republican. In a bad year for Republicans, such as 2006, voters who call themselves Republican voted for GOP candidates over Democratic candidates by 91 percent to 8 percent. Last year, a great one for the GOP, Republican voters stuck with the party by 95 percent to 4 percent. In 2006, a great year for Democrats, party members voters cast their ballots for Democrats by 93 percent to 7 percent; last year, the numbers were 92 percent to 7 percent.

It’s not about defections, and it isn’t so much about turnout either. In 2006, 38 percent of all voters called themselves Democrats and 36 percent called themselves Republicans. In 2010, it was 36 percent for each party. The big difference was that independents in 2006 swung from backing Democrats over Republicans (by 57 percent to 39 percent), to preferring Republicans last November (by 56 percent to 38 percent). The swing in both elections was 18 points.

Democrats can be expected to support bigger government, as they did in this survey, siding 75 percent to 21 percent on the do-more side, and Republicans can be reliably expected to be on the antigovernment side, as they were, 75 percent to 22 percent. It’s when independents make a big swing that election results shift. The point is, politically speaking, we need to focus specifically on how independents are moving as policy fights play out over the next two years. We know how partisans are going to see things. The question is whether independents will buy more into the Republicans’ message or the Democrats’.

One poll isn’t a trend, but the responses to this key question will be worth watching closely. 



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cookreport; government; independents; poll

1 posted on 03/12/2011 12:01:12 PM PST by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

It’s Bull!


2 posted on 03/12/2011 12:03:14 PM PST by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Oh Please! Cooking the polls has become a Democrat art. It is to scare the Lilly Livered Repubs. They run like Rabbits from the Press Propaganda every time.


3 posted on 03/12/2011 12:04:12 PM PST by screaminsunshine (34 States)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: screaminsunshine

were they asked if they wanted to pay for more government?


4 posted on 03/12/2011 12:08:18 PM PST by Perdogg (What Would Aqua Buddha do?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Look at the dates. This is a result of the election of a Republican House. Clearly, independents have figured out that the Democrats are the party of big government.


5 posted on 03/12/2011 12:08:44 PM PST by KansasGirl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

This poll shows pretty much what many of us already recognize. Americans are still wedded to the social welfare state and only support cuts in theory. The minute you ask about cutting specific programs, Americans generally oppose all cuts (with the exception of Foreign Aid and perhaps Defense).

We’ve learned nothing and there has been no fundamental shift in attitudes. We are Greece, American’s just don’t know it yet - and even if they did they would STILL probably oppose cutting anything.


6 posted on 03/12/2011 12:08:48 PM PST by Longbow1969
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Perdogg

Who cares it is a scam.


7 posted on 03/12/2011 12:11:20 PM PST by screaminsunshine (34 States)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Longbow1969

Rasmussen’s poll shows that the majority of Americans still prefer government to tax less and do less. This poll is in direct contradictin to that.


8 posted on 03/12/2011 12:13:39 PM PST by KansasGirl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Independents who said the government should do more jumped 13 points, from 38 percent to 51 percent.

“Do more” what? If you are saying that the Government should do more to allow drilling , I agree. If you are saying the govenment should do more to reign in spending , I agree. If you are asking me about growing the size of government, I disagree. The vagueness of this question makes the results of this poll irrelevant.


9 posted on 03/12/2011 12:14:46 PM PST by marstegreg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
One always has to keep in mind, "independents" are not impartial rational decisionmakers. For the most part they apathetic and only react when the news is in their faces. Lately the news has not focussed so much on government abuses of power like the obamacre atrocity, but rather on settling in to try to get a budget, which appears to be a useful thing to do.

As the election cycle warms up it will be the challenge to conservatives to revive in the indies' minds the reasons they kicked out the 'rats in 2010. It shouldn't be too hard to do, especially if the cost of energy stays high or rises. Government interference is the main cause.

10 posted on 03/12/2011 12:16:44 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

I don’t really know what to tell my child. Working hard, getting an education, delaying gratification etc. were all things I did, but it most certainly did not lead to a predictable and happy life. What makes me happy are the basic and simple things, like when my child is happy. When those in the populace who feel entitled to your efforts can just vote into office people who can and do nullify the efforts you’ve made over decades, what is the point in working for the future?

Yes, I know that Thatcher was right when she talked about socialists eventually running out of other peoples money, but a lot can happen to undo what you’ve worked for over a lifetime before the check comes due. And, as you’re seeing in Wisconsin, having the check come due is only the beginning of the process, and leads to even louder screams for the government to take more from others.


11 posted on 03/12/2011 12:20:58 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

sure.............


12 posted on 03/12/2011 12:21:13 PM PST by Mr. K (Job #1 DEFUND THE LEFT then Palin/Bachman 2012 -Unbeatable Ticket~!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

One thousand random adults does not translate to likely voters. Having said that I’d like to meet the person who thought government was doing to much last November but thinks it should be doing more now. What is wrong with these people?


13 posted on 03/12/2011 12:21:35 PM PST by rushmom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

I took a poll the other day

I asked “Do you want the government to do more to make people feel good?”

100% of the people said yes!

So I am here to report that 100% of the people support the government!!!


14 posted on 03/12/2011 12:23:32 PM PST by Mr. K (Job #1 DEFUND THE LEFT then Palin/Bachman 2012 -Unbeatable Ticket~!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

hey... my result are exactly as good as theirs...


15 posted on 03/12/2011 12:24:11 PM PST by Mr. K (Job #1 DEFUND THE LEFT then Palin/Bachman 2012 -Unbeatable Ticket~!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: hinckley buzzard

Prior to the 2010 election idependents wanted the Gov’t to do less. Many of the state gov’ts as well as all of the federal gov’t was controlled completely by Democrats who wanted to expand Gov’t, which is why independents wanted “government to do less.” After Republicans took control of the U.S. House and many state legislatures and governorship, the message became “cut spending, cut regulation shrink government”. Now independents want “the Gov’t to do more.” To me this means do more of the things the Republicans want to do; reign in spending, deregulate, cut big government, cut bureacracy, achieve energy independence by develping our own resources, repeal Obamacare, etc.


16 posted on 03/12/2011 12:28:47 PM PST by KansasGirl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Well, in a choice between a spineless national Republican party that violates its pledge and does next-to-nothing versus a Democrat party that promises an endless stream of goodies for unthinking independents, it’s not that unsurprising.


17 posted on 03/12/2011 1:01:03 PM PST by Qbert ("I seem to smell the stench of appeasement in the air" - Margaret Thatcher)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
Let's just find the obscure parts of the poll we like, and pretend that's all there was in it.
18 posted on 03/12/2011 1:25:45 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: E. Pluribus Unum
Obama is down 10 points by independents, this poll makes no sense.
19 posted on 03/12/2011 1:36:00 PM PST by scooby321
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson