Analysis: Palin's celeb feuds don't lead to the W.H.

Politico ^ | 3/7/1 | Andy Barr

[2ndDivisionVet]

Sniff, sniff...

[Dead Corpse]

Not necessarily. We've been on the same side of a number of topics in the past.

It's just this PDS thing he insists on that is making look like a complete lunatic devoid of reason and out of touch with reality.

[2ndDivisionVet]

So once again this cycle you back a House member, knowing full well that we don’t make Congressmen/women president without some intervening experience like, say, Vice President, Governor, Senator or Secretary of State. Only two such have ever been elected president, in the 19th Century, one in a freakish 5-way race. And we have NEVER elected a private citizen with no elected or flag-rank military experience to the White House. But next year will be different, right? What game are you playing?

[Carling]

Sarah Palin is a private citizen. She quit as governor of Alaska. I know why she quit, and I agree with it, but she’ll have to do a lot of explaining when the media paints her as someone who ran away from her elected duty.

Palin, at this point, is a reality TV show star who also provides news commentary. She will be painted as a quitter by the MSM if she wins the GOP primary.

[2ndDivisionVet]

He needs you to explain his ignorance of how our elections work? Is he too busy posting another journ-o-list article slamming Gov. Palin?

[pissant]

BS. I’m the one who is making these claims, BECAUSE I RESEARCHED THEM. Not the MSM. Not her potential primary opponents. It is me, and other conservatives here that don’t gloss over idiocy and liberalism just because the candidate seems like an good one.

[Redskin Indian Chief]

Why don't you tell us about Rudy's campaign.

Rudy, because he had no organization and realized he couldn't win Iowa and New Hampshire, decided to sit out the early primaries and not even start his campaign until the Florida primary. He and his handlers ran an unconventional campaign (which was just a way of saying that he wasn't going to compete in states he had no chance in). That didn't work out for him.

[Dead Corpse]

Horsesh*t. We’ve seen your “sources” before. Liberal RINO supporters, left leaning bloggers, and opinion pieces do not good research make.

[PA Engineer]

That didn't work out for him.

There is much going on if you are watching. She also has boots on the ground in Iowa. She has said she will not run a traditional campaign if she decides to run.

There is no reason to submit to the occupation media and the Washington elite without ending up with more of the same.

[pissant]

What are my criticisms of Palin? Are they that she’s uneducated? Not an elitist? Doesn’t know geography or history? Is too conservative? Or radical? Or not accommodating to the media? That she slams Obama or the liberals? That she likes to kill wolves from helicopters? That she says “drill baby drill”. That she won’t give interviews to Anderson Cooper or Chris Matthews? That she tweets? No, by golly they aren’t my criticisms.

How many lefties have slammed her for being in full throated support of LOST? Or for having McCain’s amnesty plan? Or for ignorantly supporting Title IX federal intrusiveness? Or for her pathetic support of Cap and Trade (just not Obama’s version)? Or for her cheerleading for TARP? Or her “state’s rights” position on abortion? Or her re-tweet of Tammy Bruce’s idiotic hetero-bashing? Or her gouging the oil companies with a windfall profits tax? Or for supporting FioRino over DeVore because Carly was the only one who “could win”?

Those are her shortfalls. She’s not a conservative. She’s a finger in the wind populist.

[Dead Corpse]

How many lefties have slammed her for being in full throated support of LOST? Or for having McCain’s amnesty plan? Or for ignorantly supporting Title IX federal intrusiveness? Or for her pathetic support of Cap and Trade (just not Obama’s version)? Or for her cheerleading for TARP? Or her “state’s rights” position on abortion? Or her re-tweet of Tammy Bruce’s idiotic hetero-bashing? Or her gouging the oil companies with a windfall profits tax? Or for supporting FioRino over DeVore because Carly was the only one who “could win”?

She wasn't. She isn't. She didn't. There was no support as you describe it. She didn't. Not what you are making her stance out to be. Again, not what you are making it out to be. She didn't. The last one there I haven't looked in to.

There is no reasoning with you. You have your opinion of the above "issues" and you refuse to even entertain the idea that you may be blowing sh*t out of proportion.

Palin is by far the most conservative candidate we've had in a long time. Especially in light of McCain, Dole, and Bush.

Is she perfect? No. She's just better than anyone else out there on the horizon.

[r9etb]

But they knew his unbridled conservative message, which he had honed since 1964.

.... actually, he had been honing his message long before that. I always like to post his Eureka College Commencement Address from 1957. He wrote that himself -- it's a masterpiece that pretty faithfully lays the foundations for his later political life.

When Sarah Palin can actually write a speech like that, then she might be ready to go.

[floozy22]

Funny you mention Reagan. Even though this isn't one of your "Palin-is-for-amnesty" rants...

The 1986 immigration reform bill signed by President Reagan "legalized" almost 3 million illegal immigrants. Any immigrant who was here illegally was granted AMNESY.

In a 1984 debate with Mondale, Reagan said,

"I believe in the idea of amnesty for those who have put down roots and lived here, even though sometime back they may have entered illegally," he said.

Reagan's "unbridled conservative message," must have veered slightly off-course regarding immigration. But he believed what he believed and did not apologize - just like Sarah Palin. Reagan would admire and support Sarah Palin, and your view that she is not conservative, or conservative enough, is ridiculous.

[EveningStar]

Give it a rest, 2DV.

[grey_whiskers]

Until we have a nominee, however, what is wrong with people trying to promote “their” primary candidates, even if it means pointing out potential weaknesses in rival candidates?

Here's an experiment.

Go to Pissant's "about" page, and click on "In Forum".

Count the number of anti-Palin threads that he has been the original poster on.

Then go to the main page sidebar and look at the list of topics.

Click on "SarahPalin" and count the number of positive threads, and the number of negative threads.

Do the same again for the keyword "Palin"; and discard any duplicate threads.

Now go back and see how many negative threads were posted by each FReeper.

Bonus hint:

Try the Keywords "Bachmann" or "Michelle Bachmann" or "Huckabee" or "Barbour" or "Pawlenty" and do the same thing.

There aren't that many other threads *ATTACKING* a leading conservative candidate: and those that do, point out substantive holes in policy more often than not. The only exception seems to be trashing Huckabee for those pardons, or his son and the dog.

I don't count Gingrich's divorces because after Gingrich sat on the sofa with Pelosi to promote green bullsh*t, nobody is calling him a real conservative anymore.

Cheers!

[pissant]

How many lefties have slammed her for being in full throated support of LOST?

She wasn't.

Is that so? Look at this ignorant drivel!

Dear Senator Stevens and Senator Murkowski - It is my understanding that the US Senate may consider the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea this fall. With this in mind, I'm writing to express my strong support for ratification of the convention. In my opinion, the convention would be beneficial to the US and Alaska in various ways, but I want to focus on one aspect in this correspondence.

http://globalsolutions.org/files/general/Palin_LOS_Letter.pdf

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Or for having McCain’s amnesty plan?

She isn't.

Is that so?

VAN SUSTEREN: Governor Palin, if you were vice president today, what would you be telling a President McCain about what to do about immigration, if anything?

PALIN: I support his position on immigration.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,590022,00.html

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Or for ignorantly supporting Title IX federal intrusiveness?

She Didn't.

Is that so?

"Now, I was a product of Title IX, where legislation allowed that equal opportunity. Now, if we have to still keep going down that road to create more legislation, to get with it in the 21st century, to make sure that women do have equality, especially in the work place, then we're there, because we understand that, in this age, we have all got to be working together," Palin said. "But yup, equality for women, for all, that's going to be part of the agenda, and I thank you for that question."

That there is PATHETIC LIBERALISM.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/palin-takes-que.html

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Or for her pathetic support of Cap and Trade (just not Obama’s version)?

There was no support as you describe it.

Is that so? Let's see the flim flam in her directives to her newborn Algorian Climate Change Subcabinet that she created:

PURPOSE AND DUTIES

9. the potential benefits of Alaska participating in regional, national, and international climate policy agreements and greenhouse gas registries;

10. the opportunities to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from Alaska sources, including the expanded use of alternative fuels, energy conservation, energy efficiency, renewable energy, land use management, and transportation planning;

12. the opportunities to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from the operations of Alaska state government;

13. the opportunities for Alaska to participate in carbon-trading markets, including the offering of carbon sequestration;

Now why on God's Green Earth would ANYONE want to be part of a "carbon trading" market who didn't beleive in Cap and Trade. THERE WOULD BE NO CARBON TRADING MARKETS without cap and trade. CARBON TRADING MARKETS ARE CAP AND TRADE.

http://www.gov.state.ak.us/admin-orders/238.html

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Or for her cheerleading for TARP?

She didn't.

Is that so?

John McCain thankfully has been one representing reform. Two years ago, remember, it was John McCain who pushed so hard with the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac reform measures. He sounded that warning bell.

People in the Senate with him, his colleagues, didn’t want to listen to him and wouldn’t go towards that reform that was needed then. I think that the alarm has been heard, though, and there will be that greater oversight, again thanks to John McCain’s bipartisan efforts that he was so instrumental in bringing folks together over this past week, even suspending his own campaign to make sure he was putting excessive politics aside and putting the country first.

If that ain't cheerleading, then nothing is.

http://washingtonindependent.com/68578/yes-palin-backed-the-bailouts#

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Or her “state’s rights” position on abortion?

Not what you are making her stance out to be.

Is that so? Funny, once again, from her own lips...

Q: Why is Roe v. Wade a bad decision?

A: I think it should be a states’ issue not a federal government-mandated, mandating yes or no on such an important issue. I’m, in that sense, a federalist, where I believe that states should have more say in the laws of their lands and individual areas. Now, foundationally, it’s no secret that I’m pro-life that I believe in a culture of life is very important for this country. Personally that’s what I would like to see further embraced by America.

Wow. 'States rights' on human life. Nanny state totalitarianism on women's sports. Go figger.

http://www.ontheissues.org/sarah_palin.htm **********

More later. But every claim I make is absolutely true. Backed by Palin's own words. I don't give a rat's rear end how her legions of sycophants try to spin it. If this were any other politician, they would NEVER be forgiven for such rank liberal stupidity, even if they flip flopped, like Palin surely will, if she runs.

[Dead Corpse]

We’ve been over your list of selective quotations before. Did you really thing the same discredited arguments would work if you just keep tossing them out there?

[pissant]

Like I said, spin from her sycophants means nothing. I remember seeing that long list of Romney’s suddenly ‘conservative’ statements and accomplishments the Mittbots tossed around here. As if they negated the actual record and previous convictions. Didn’t work for that RINO. Won’t work for yours.

[Dead Corpse]

You assert she was for LOST. She wasn't. She wanted us as part of the negotiations so that we won't get screwed by the International community.

You assert she is somehow "pro-choice" in her opposition to Roe v. Wade. Utterly contemptible on your part as her pro-life bona fides are impeccable. Her opposition to Roe is that it prevents States from banning prophylactic abortion.

And on and on...

As others have correctly noted, each of her positions is entirely defensible when taken as a whole. Using your logic, Reagan was a Commie-gun grabber for signing the FOPA with the Hughes Amendment attached.

The only one spinning here is YOU.

[McGruff]

Pissy,

I can't wait for
the day Sarah Palin announces her intention to run for the office of President of The United States and
the day she accepts our party nomination for the office of President of The United States and
the day she is sworn in as for the next of President of The United States

I hope you are still around for that.