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Men Falling Behind Women (in Schools and Employment)
MSNBC ^ | 3/5/2011 | Lester Holt

Posted on 03/06/2011 10:08:04 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o

Where did all the men go?

Once the vast majority, they now make up just over 40 percent of the nation's college students. And it’s not just college.

Women dominate high school honor rolls and make up more than 70 percent of class valedictorians.

And where are the men going?

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Experts used to explain away the college gender imbalance by noting that men had plenty of high-paying job opportunities to them in manufacturing and construction, but then came the last recession.

The numbers are staggering: 78 percent of the jobs lost since 2007 were held by men, leaving one out of every five working age men out of work.

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In the last 10 years, 2 million more women than men graduated from college in the United States. That’s an achievement gap that is having profound consequences on the economy.

[snip]

In the nation's elementary schools, where many young men first start to fall behind, there's a growing sense that many boys need a more hands-on approach.

“By school age, three-quarters of the boys in the class are more physically active, more developmentally immature, more impulsive than girls of the same age,” Thompson said. “Boys like competition, they like teamwork, they like to produce a product. Boys tend on average to not like to sit quietly with a page of writing in front of them.”

Because girls develop verbal skills sooner, some schools are experimenting with single-sex classrooms.

Others, like Hackberry Hill Elementary, just outside Denver, have come up with a whole new take on the Three Rs: reading, writing, and recess.

Jumping jacks and stretching exercises break up reading lessons and combat boys’ short attention spans.

Among the fastest-growing jobs of the next decade, only two, janitorial work and computer engineering, are expected to be dominated by men.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: failedmales; feminism; genderwars; jobless; males; schoolbias; trends
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To: A_Former_Democrat
Ok but one might also argue “The Mommy Factor” skews these stats. Even if the college numbers are true, can’t the “78% of jobs lost belonged to men” be a reflection that after it’s all said and done, males still dominate the workplace?

No, and I'll prove it with a simple example:
Consider a population where there are a million workers and all of these workers except 78 are female.
Now we apply the layoff such that all 78 males plus 22 females are laid off; this has *eliminated* the entire male workforce in this scenario, yet it is still true that “78% of jobs lost belonged to men.”

QED

41 posted on 03/06/2011 10:52:21 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

anyone who’se looked at a math textbook can tell you why boys are now failing.

third grade - son who likes math but not reading starts to fail math. the book is full of multicultural connections - examples using stories about cultures around the world to do the problem. After a few minutes of son staring at the book, I told him to read it to me....he was stumped on the name of the village the people lived in.

In order to make math more ‘girl friendly’, they made everything a word problem. Look at ‘old’ school textbooks and there are pages and pages of arithmetic examples. New textbooks - story after story.

By the time the educators can no longer destroy upper math, its too late - the boys are so far behind they are in ‘special ed’ and funneled into vo-tec.


42 posted on 03/06/2011 10:53:21 AM PST by oldmomster
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To: annieokie

Well I start my new job monday which will enable me to do all this. It’s been more than 2 years since I last worked for someone other than myself.

So keep your fingers crossed that the job sticks around.


43 posted on 03/06/2011 10:57:11 AM PST by BenKenobi (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. - Silent Cal)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
What do you think the best job areas are for a non-University-bound, not-particularly-academically-gifted male?

President.

It requires no qualifications, no experience, and no abilities. Apparently, it doesn't even require ID or passing a background check.

44 posted on 03/06/2011 11:01:07 AM PST by Dr. Sheldon Cooper (I am one lab accident away from being a super-villian.)
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To: BenKenobi

“they like teamwork”

Yeah...because they don’t like taking direct ownership when somethinkg goes wrong...


45 posted on 03/06/2011 11:08:44 AM PST by Constitutional Patriot (Socialism is the cancer of humanity.)
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To: BenKenobi

“they like teamwork”

Yeah...because they don’t like taking direct ownership when something goes wrong...


46 posted on 03/06/2011 11:08:59 AM PST by Constitutional Patriot (Socialism is the cancer of humanity.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

suicides among working age men tend to skyrocket in situations like this. Its already happened and happening in Russia and Japan. Alcoholism and drug use as well. Hell if things keep up like this I wonder if a bullet to the head would be so bad.


47 posted on 03/06/2011 11:10:09 AM PST by utherdoul
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To: oldmomster

Most of the workforce now are white-collar workers, most of whom have some of the most tedious and idiotic jobs ever concocted. Entire industries, insurance and banking and real estate for instance, consist of nothing but useless paper-shuffling. The “tertiary sector,” the service sector, is growing while the “secondary sector” (industry) stagnates and the “primary sector” (agriculture) nearly disappears. I think young men recognize this and lose hope of ever being able find satisfying, meaningful careers. Then they see the institutions of marriage and family being slowly destroyed and lose incentive to work hard to provide, not trusting in the veracity of these institutions any more. Really, it it any big mystery as to why men have thrown up their hands?


48 posted on 03/06/2011 11:14:34 AM PST by wolfman
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To: Doctor 2Brains

http://www.adamcarolla.com/ACPBlog/adams-new-book/


49 posted on 03/06/2011 11:16:06 AM PST by bneal
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To: BenKenobi

Prayers up for you and your new job. It is so inspiring to see/hear from someone like you. We all need some good news now and then. God bless.


50 posted on 03/06/2011 11:17:42 AM PST by annieokie
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To: annieokie

Thanks, but I’m just an ordinary guy trying to make his way in the world.


51 posted on 03/06/2011 11:25:52 AM PST by BenKenobi (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. - Silent Cal)
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To: fatnotlazy
“Fact is, there are no jobs. Men and women — everyone, no matter their education level, are out of work.”

A recent petroleum engineering graduate can easily make $90k per annum in Oklahoma or Texas.

52 posted on 03/06/2011 11:36:02 AM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: bcr100
Well, right now the job market stinks for everybody.

Bull$hit. Did you read the article? 78 % of the lost jobs were from men. For women, its been a very slight downturn but for men a depression; 15 + % unemployment.

But overgrown boys posing as men making babies without a job and going to jail for crimes since too lazy to do anything else has been going on long before the economy went down the toilet.

No just minorities, Archie. Many more white girls go to college than white boys, on the order of 3 to 2...

Try to look into "it" next time, before you comment, why doncha ?

53 posted on 03/06/2011 11:38:57 AM PST by Nonstatist
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

“We allow the encarcerated young men to pay for union jobs.”

If they’re in jail, then they aren’t paying for anyone’s job.


54 posted on 03/06/2011 11:49:01 AM PST by vladimir998 (Copts, Nazis, Franks and Beans - what a public school education puts in your head.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
A Depressing Future For Men

55 posted on 03/06/2011 11:52:14 AM PST by SouthDixie (The secret to staying young is to live honestly, eat slowly and lie about your age.)
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To: SVTCobra03

“A recent petroleum engineering graduate can easily make $90k per annum in Oklahoma or Texas.”

****

And as Obama and his cohorts try to wipe out drilling for our own oil, I wonder how long a job like that is going to last.


56 posted on 03/06/2011 11:52:43 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: OneWingedShark

But that’s not the real world. That would be like if the NBA eliminated some franchises, someone could say, well that’s not fair, as 80% of the “layoffs” were black. In a male dominated workplace, layoffs are going to be disproportionately male, especially since they occupy the highest paid positions. In order for layoffs to disporportionately affect females, they would have to occur at the admin/nursing/teaching spots, etc where females tend to dominate.


57 posted on 03/06/2011 12:01:48 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat ("Celebrate 'Civility'")
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To: bcr100

BS


58 posted on 03/06/2011 12:06:20 PM PST by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: wolfman

Agree....and not even going to go into the scarcity of ‘young ladies’ to share conservative values.


59 posted on 03/06/2011 12:07:53 PM PST by oldmomster
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Electrician, plumber, hvac, mechanic, military, fire, police, truck driving, start a business


60 posted on 03/06/2011 12:09:04 PM PST by WriteOn (Truth)
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