Posted on 03/05/2011 5:14:47 PM PST by Glenn
When Gary Adams heard a series of "booms" early Thursday, he figured one of the kids had left the TV on overnight. He had no idea, he said Friday, that law enforcement agents were about to flood his Bellevue house, looking for an accused member of the Manchester OGs gang who once lived there.
A few clock ticks later, agents broke open all three doors into his Orchard Avenue home, shattering glass. Then some 15 Federal Bureau of Investigation agents and state and local police entered his home.
"When I hit that bend and turned," he said, pointing toward the staircase that lands near his front door, "there was a laser sight on my head."
An hour later the agents left, without their suspect, Sondra Hunter, who remained at large. An FBI agent apologized and promised the bureau would pay for the damaged doors, he said. These days, agents don't hesitate to break doors. Several federal agents have been shot in recent years, and some of the 29 accused gangsters whose indictments were unveiled Thursday are accused of gun violations.
The entry to Mr. Adams' house, though, raises the question: Absent a search warrant, when can law enforcement knock in a door?
(Excerpt) Read more at post-gazette.com ...
Yep. a lot of us would. If someone breaks in the door and is trying to enter, lethal force can be used to take the intruder down in a number of states. Of course, it won’t matter because the homeowner and family will be dead.
If they did not have search warrant hire and attorney, if they had a search warrant hire an attorney, pain and suffering should be worth a mill are two.
I somewhat disagree with that. If "the FBI" is liable for the cost of repair, that means you and I, the people whose taxes fund "the FBI," will pay it.
At some point someone signed off on this fiasco who did not do his homework. There are tools available to find out who lives there. In my computer, I have the voter rolls for the county in which I live. I can search by name and by address. Something that simple could have shed lots of light on the occupants of that address, past and present. Surely, "the FBI" has access to more tools than I.
The lazy chump who signed of too quickly should pay the bill.
The only way to change these policies for no-knock raids seems to be through lawsuits. These thugs would rather shoot grandma than risk their own skin.
And sell house at loss because you are too afraid to live there, these bastards have got to be taught this dog will not hunt.
“The lazy chump who signed of too quickly should pay the bill. “
I’d also make his boss pay. Perhaps both of em should go out and clean up the mess and replace the door themselves, after writing a check.
>I somewhat disagree with that. If “the FBI” is liable for the cost of repair, that means you and I, the people whose taxes fund “the FBI,” will pay it.
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>The lazy chump who signed of too quickly should pay the bill.
Agreed. It would indeed be far better should the agents be held liable; but, let’s face it, that isn’t going *anywhere* in our judicial system.
What you wrote is the Truth, 29.
Over the years I have had two instances of the cops banging on my door and bullying me, looking for someone I never heard of. In a decent neighborhood.
Both times they came ready for action.
First time (1973) I was living in a rental house and they were looking for an outstanding warrant. Apparently the guy rented the house sometime in the past. 3 cop cars in my front yard, loaded for bear.
Second time was really disgusting. Lakeland Florida. I had owned the house for over 20 years! Some clown had been arrested and given my address and last name, then jumped bail. Dumb ass Lakeland police didn’t bother to verify anything. Just sent out 3 cars and bullied me, called me a liar, said the man was my brother (WTF?) and accused me of hiding him.
So the moron (that’s Lakeland, Florida folks) police took the word of a scumbag they arrested, no verification from him as to identity, and then harassed me in my home and accused me of lying.
In case you missed it, Lakeland, Florida.
Sorry, I swore then, from now on they come to my front door, I don’t talk to them unless there is a warrant in my name, otherwise get the hell off my property. BTW, I’ve never been arrested. Over 30 years without a traffic ticket.
Never again will I take that kind of crap from a cop that knocks on my door unannounced.
Any time they damn well please.
“Yep. a lot of us would. If someone breaks in the door and is trying to enter, lethal force can be used to take the intruder down in a number of states. Of course, it won’t matter because the homeowner and family will be dead.”
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How about a golf club?
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/video-outrage-utah-police-kill-marijuana-smoker-in-own-home
well, doing some actual FBInvestigating, and verifying that you are, in fact, in the place where the 'suspect' resides, might ease the tension...
Fortify your house. Not only does it really, really, really, really slow down ‘accidental’ raids, you can often get enormous discounts on the theft part of your insurance.
When they have more guns than you do.
Which is always.
Don’t know about the Feds but the LAPD keeps a carpenter on staff to fix their “mistakes”.
Welcome to the Police State. What do you think the Patriot Act was all about?
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