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Global Warming Alarmists Flip-Flop On Snowfall
Forbes ^ | Mar. 2 , 2011 | James M. Taylor

Posted on 03/04/2011 1:43:05 PM PST by george76

Sitting in on a March 1 Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS) press conference regarding global warming and heavy snowfalls, I couldn’t help feeling like the chairman of the Senate committee questioning mafia capo Frank Pentangeli in Godfather II. The chairman, listening incredulously as Pentangeli contradicts a sworn written statement he had earlier given to the committee, waves the written statement in the air and protests, “We have a sworn affidavit — we have it — your sworn affidavit…. Do you deny that confession, and do you realize what will happen as a result of your denial?”

The UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) Third Assessment Report was as straightforward as Frank Pentangeli’s earlier confession that he had killed on behalf of Michael Corleone. “Milder winter temperatures will decrease heavy snowstorms,” IPCC reported.

That was in 2001. Now, however, with an unprecedented number of major winter snowstorms hitting the northeastern U.S. during the past two winters, the alarmists are clamming up and changing their tune faster than Tom Hagen can fly in Vincenzo Pentangeli from Italy to aid his brother in his time of trouble.

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For years, alarmists have claimed “the science is settled” and “the debate is over.” Well, when was the science settled? ...

We could ask Frank Pentangeli, but Frankie Five Angles is no longer talking.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alarmists; carboncult; flipflop; globalhoaxing; globalwarming; greenreligion; ipcc; watermelons
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1 posted on 03/04/2011 1:43:10 PM PST by george76
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To: george76

An unfalsifiable theory is not scientific,
it’s theological.


2 posted on 03/04/2011 1:44:27 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: george76

I thought the heavy snow fall was the result of the Westerlies wind patterns?

It’s the Earth you freakin scienstesticles


3 posted on 03/04/2011 1:47:32 PM PST by Chattering Class of 58
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To: george76

Come on, Congress, get a spine, declare CO2 a non pollutant.


4 posted on 03/04/2011 2:03:28 PM PST by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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To: george76

So I made up a lot of stuff about Global Warming. Because then, that’s what they wanted. But it was all lies. Everything. They said Global Warming did this, Global Warming did that. So I said, “Yeah, sure.”


5 posted on 03/04/2011 2:04:35 PM PST by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: george76

There are scientists, and there are global warming kooks pretending to be scientists. The latter are the equivalent of flat Earth absolutists. No matter how cold the temperatures get, the warmers will be screaming anthropogenic warming and CO2 emissions. They know they are wrong, but it is their religion, and they will fabricate any lie to prove it.


6 posted on 03/04/2011 2:09:36 PM PST by pallis
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To: george76; tubebender; mmanager; Fiddlstix; Fractal Trader; FrPR; enough_idiocy; meyer; Normandy; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

7 posted on 03/04/2011 2:16:45 PM PST by steelyourfaith ("Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell Phillips)
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To: swain_forkbeard

10 to 1 shot he takes the fifth. 10 to 1 shot and I lose.


8 posted on 03/04/2011 2:20:02 PM PST by karnage
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To: george76

Big ‘ol BTTT!


9 posted on 03/04/2011 2:47:04 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (Had God not driven man from the Garden of Eden the Sierra Club surely would have.)
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To: MrB

But isn’t Einstein’s theory of relativity unfalsifiable? Guess I’m having trouble wrapping my brain around the term.


10 posted on 03/04/2011 3:16:23 PM PST by deadrock (Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle. Philo)
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To: DEADROCK
But isn’t Einstein’s theory of relativity unfalsifiable?

No. Indeed, famously, in his great 1915 paper on general relativity ("The Foundation of the General Theory of Relativity"), Dr. Einstein suggested three tests of general relativity in section 22, "Behaviour of Rods and Clocks in the Static Gravitational Field. Bending of Light-rays. Motion of the Perihelion of a Planetary Orbit".

See pp. 196-200 of this translation into English to read them.

The world hailed the 1919 light deflection experiments of Sir Arthur Eddington as the first great success test of Einstein's theory of general relativity.

There's a whole Wikipedia page devoted to almost a century's worth of tests of the theory of general relativity.

11 posted on 03/04/2011 3:37:39 PM PST by snowsislander
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To: steveab
AND WHILE YER AT IT BRING BACK THE GOOD 'OLE INCANDESCENT...
12 posted on 03/04/2011 4:27:10 PM PST by flat
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To: flat

They sell em at my WM.

And FR has confirmed that the shelf storage life is essentially unlimited.

Buy and stockpile while you can.


13 posted on 03/04/2011 4:29:08 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: snowsislander

So Sir Arthur Eddington proved Einstein’s theory was unfalsifiable?


14 posted on 03/04/2011 5:00:40 PM PST by deadrock (Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle. Philo)
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To: DEADROCK
So Sir Arthur Eddington proved Einstein’s theory was unfalsifiable?

No, Dr. Einstein suggested three tests of general relativity, any of which could have falsified the theory. That's the falsification angle here.

Sir Arthur Eddington was able to perform one of the tests in 1919, and the results of that test were consistent with general relativity.

If Eddington's test had however failed, it would have immediately shown that Einstein's theory of general relativity was false. As Einstein himself remarked "No amount of experimentation can ever prove me right; a single experiment can prove me wrong."

If you aren't familiar with Karl Popper's theory of falsification, you might try reading the decent introduction here.

15 posted on 03/04/2011 5:13:44 PM PST by snowsislander
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To: snowsislander
could have falsified the theory

That did it for me. Got it now. Thank you for your patience.

16 posted on 03/04/2011 5:53:41 PM PST by deadrock (Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle. Philo)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

The debate may be over, but the prosecutions, convictions, and sentences have not yet begun. Thanks george76.


17 posted on 03/04/2011 7:12:49 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: george76

Want to see a Liberal gape like a fish? Ask them how weather conditions would change for global cooling to take place. Or that we are due another Ice Age. Ask what we should be looking for as signs that a new Ice Age is underway.


18 posted on 03/04/2011 11:33:39 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Why are public employee unions attacking taxpayers?)
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To: MrB
An unfalsifiable theory is not scientific, it’s theological.

I would agree with you (and Karl Popper) that falsification is necessary for the scientific method. However, theology can involve falsifiable predictions.

While there is no formal scientific methodology that can easily be applied to the study of a being that transcends nature, still there are predictions involving God all the time. Seems to me most of them turn out to be wrong, or at least are indeterminate. However some turn out to be right, at least to the extent that reported observations are consistent with the predictions. But the point is such claims are both theological, and subject to falsification.

For example, Harold Camping has predicted the end of the world as we know it will happen in a spectacular fashion on May 21, 2011. This hypothesis follows a failed theory in which he predicted something similar in 1988.

While I don't put much stock in Mr Camping's prediction, I don't think it suffers from not subjecting itself to falsification.

I daresay, most scientific theories turn out to be wrong...but only an idiot would think this meant science was not worth pursuing...sadly, such idiocy is rampant in critics of theology, I pray it has not infected you as well?

There was once a guy who claimed to be God, and he said he would be raised from the dead. Now if he was still found to be in his tomb, this theological claim would be falsified.

This particular claim has had critics working furiously for 2000 years, and they have used many angles to try and show it to be wrong, so far they have failed. The best they can do is presume that the claims are impossible and disparage any eye witness report that contradicts their assertions...the normal naturalistic method of avoiding falsification by making one's philosophy immune to evidence.

19 posted on 03/05/2011 2:42:43 AM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: AndyTheBear

Your last statement could apply to alien abduction stories as well you know. And in those cases we often have living witnesses, not stuff written long afterwards.


20 posted on 03/05/2011 2:56:55 AM PST by Tolsti2
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