Posted on 03/01/2011 9:03:56 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion
The Fleebaggers Are Cracking–
Wisconsin Senate Minority Leader Jon Erpenbach admitted to Greta Van Susteren tonight that his fellow caucus members met secretly with the Wisconsin Senate Majority Leader today behind his back.
He did not even know about the meeting until the media contacted him!
Greta Van Sustern: Did you know about the secret meeting?
Minority Leader Erpenbach: No, I was not told about the secret meeting until I was called by a reporter so obviously somebody did not want the meeting to be secret. I think a couple of senators, from what I understand, met with Scott. I don’t know what was discussed but I gotta believe we’re a little more firm in our stance now that we hear from Senator Fitzgerald that he wants us to come back and debate something that’s not negotiable.
You were just avoiding the appearance of sin, right?!? LOL
...if I left my job, ran off on vacation and charged it all to my company - I’d get fired!
But if I was a Democrat politician from Wisconsin, I’d get re-elected and called a hero.
Things really are strange in Obamaland. :)
That’s a good question.
Would have been even better if every Republican governor in the country (especially our new guy Corbett) would have made a public statement to the effect that “any Wisconsin Democrat senator setting foot in our state will be immediately identified and “detained” pending extradition back to Wisconsin to discharge their duty as an elected official...”
Yeah, yeah, I know....but a guy can dream after all, can’t he...?
The pubs are caving as we speak. Not Walker, but enough of the pub senate to queer the whole bill. There was NO other reason for them to meet with the senate rats.
I don’t necessarily agree. What I’m hearing is that some of the Dem Senators contacted the Wisconsin Republican Senate Leader to talk about how they could resolve the situation — NOT the other way around. The Dem Senators are beginning to get antsy because (1) if they stay out of State for a couple more weeks, their offices can be legally challenged in court as “vacant” or “abandoned” and special elections called; (2) recall efforts are already underway in some of their districts by Tea Party activists; (3) Word is getting out that the Dem Senators are being “supported” and their bills paid by national political organizations and political figures like Howard Dean, Chuckie Schumer and others — which is a direct violation of Wisconsin Ethics and political laws; and (4) one of the Senators is an expectant mother who doesn’t especially want to deliver in exile in Chicago, and several of the lower echelon Dems are NOT rich and NEED to actually make a living, unlike their bought and paid for leaders, so it’s in their interest to return to Wisconsin and work a deal with Walker and the Republicans.
At this point, Republicans are playing the strong hand. Don’t just ASSUME that the Senate Republicans are the ones caving here. The signs don’t indicate that at this point. Granted, Republicans in the past have been experts at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory — but Walker and this new bunch from Wisconsin has given no indication that they are made of such “old cloth” to this moment.
Stand fast. Pray hard. Speak loudly. Let them know you are behind them so long as they remain true to Principle. This could be a pivotal moment.
#6: Texas Democrats pulled the same stunt on redistricting a few years ago. Left for Oklahoma, but they had no game plan. Texas Rangers brought them back home, as I recall. Thing is, they were griping about the Republicans in Texas taking advice/suggestions from Tom Delay. Thing is, Democrats did the same thing when they were in power, using advice/suggestions from Martin Frost.
There was no reason for the senate pubs to meet with them at all. That, in and of itself, is a capitulation. The place for the rats to meet with the pubs is in the senate chambers, thus creating a quorum, not meeting privately with them to negotiate. The pubs don’t need to “work a deal”, especially not in private at the beck and call of the rats.
If the rats want to talk, they should be told to come back to their jobs and do so in the proper forum, not a clandestine hotel room or whatever.
I agree with your analysis of the predicament the rats have placed themselves in, but I disagree with your take on the validity of the pubs’ response in meeting privately with them. In fact, that may even make the pubs appear somewhat complicit in whatever illegalities are taking place in the support measures being taken by Schemer, Dean, the union thug leaders, etc. for the WI senate rats. The smart, hardball move for the pubs would be to let the rats twist in the wind. That certainly would have been the move the rats would make if the situation was reversed. What the pubs have done is not much better than negotiating with terrorists/kidnappers/extortionists. It sickens me. They shouldn’t give the rats the time of day until they return to the senate where they can debate and offer amendments to no avail just like the pubs have been forced to do for decades.
Pay back is a bitch, but the rats will never experience it as long as we have weak-kneed, spineless pubs in charge.
You haven’t seen anything to indicate the pubs are caving? Just meeting with them privately, away from senate chambers is a capitulation. Who benefits by that meeting? The rats. The effort should be to force the rats to come back to the senate, not accommodate them by meeting elsewhere. That’s the only move that fills the pubs’ hand. Only a wishful thinker would believe otherwise.
As for the rest, holding a winning hand has never stopped the pubs from losing in the past. Never.
You make valid points, with which I am inclined to agree. I was merely giving the benefit of the doubt to the Republican Leader of the Senate, because he is on the ground there, and I’m not. I’m not crazy about the “appearance” either — but I am willing to grant due deference if he believed he could convince one or two Dem Senators to come back and give the Senate the quorum they needed to resolve this issue. And I KNOW there are at least TWO Dem Senators who are fed up and tired and want this over with. We shall see.
Naturally, the Republicans CAN still snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Hopefully they don’t. We are DUE to win one.
Wisconsin Senate Minority Leader Jon Erpenbach admitted to Greta Van Susteren tonight that his fellow caucus members met secretly with the Wisconsin Senate Majority Leader today behind his back.
“Senate pubs are caving is what it means. Why else would they meet on rat terms?”
Actually, the ‘rats met with the Repubs in WI, at a McDonald’s, I understand.
And, they did so without the Minority Leader’s knowledge.
That doesn’t sound like a Repub cave to me.
My understanding is that they had an understanding that the meeting would be private...and that the ‘rats wouldn’t be hauled in by the cops.
The fact they the ‘rats went back to WI, instead of insisting that the meeting be in IL, speaks volumes to me.
LOL!
You’re a funny guy! ;o)
Just meeting with them anywhere except the senate chambers was a cave. Rather than forcing the rats to roll the dice and show up to find out if the pubs were going to cut any slack on the budget repair bill, which would have given the pubs a quorum, they let the rats know they had no intention of doing that, thus encouraging the rats to stay away.
Typical pub blunder; typical out-maneuvering by the rats.
It was stupid.
I know your reply was very early this morning, so you weren’t privy to the happenings today.
They were laying the ground work for the Senate to find them in contempt. The law is on the lookout for them now. If they come back to WI, the police will get them. All that they need is one. BTW, some of them have been spending some nights at home.
This is one of Alinsky’s rules...isolate. And I’m dang proud of the WI Republicans!
I love your nic. ;o)
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