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New Life Church hero says she was asked to leave because she's gay
FOX 31 KDVR - DENVER ^ | 2011.02.28 at 06:53 AM MST | by Web Staff

Posted on 02/28/2011 9:26:48 AM PST by ironwill

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To: allmendream
Either this church is very confused and is not consistent

Reminds me of the theme of the LETTERS TO THE CHURCHES in the Bible. 2000 years later, we haven't improved much.

41 posted on 02/28/2011 10:06:00 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post.)
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To: Neoliberalnot
What if her sexual orientation was toward children or siblings. Would you consider that wrong?

see Post 27. Of course it's wrong. I never said homosexuality wasn't.

42 posted on 02/28/2011 10:09:43 AM PST by ironwill (III - Molon Labe)
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To: ironwill

“New Life Church hero”.....
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Let us see now.
She was an armed security guard.
She was working (volunteering) at the Church.
A gunman comes to the church, kills a couple of people and she in turn kills the gunman.
I know I am ‘nit picking’, ‘beating a dead horse’ etc but where does this make her a hero?
She was doing her ‘job’.
You (or at least I) do not place someone in hero status when they are simply doing their job.
A cop in a shoot out with couple of bad guys is doing his job.
A cop in a shoot out who zig zags his way, through gunfire, and positions himself where he can take out the ‘bad guy’ is acting heroically.
A HERO is the guy that, when already safe, runs back into the foray to rescue someone else or take out the ‘bad guy’ He is a ‘hero’.
Just another word that has been butchered and handed out like graffiti just to more or less give someone their ‘15 min of fame’.
A soldier, standing with a group of people who spots a grenade and jumps on it is a ‘hero’ - his action will most likely contribute to his early demise - and save the lives of those in the immediate vicinity.
Even if it didn’t go off, the intent was there and he did place himself in an awkward, to say the least, position.

The ONLY EXCEPTION to this rule is if he placed the grenade there himself.


43 posted on 02/28/2011 10:10:41 AM PST by xrmusn ((6/98) When you are right, nobody remembers, but when you are wrong, nobody forgets.)
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To: r9etb
She is a liar.

How do you know this?

FTFA: New Life pastor Brady Boyd told the Colorado Springs Gazette the report is untrue. "We would never tell someone to leave because of their sexual orientation," Boyd says. "Jeanne will always be a hero at New Life."

According to r9etb, "she was kicked off the police force in Minneapolis for filing false reports in back the 90s," so she has a history of lying.

Do you have any evidence that pastor Boyd has a history of lying?

44 posted on 02/28/2011 10:14:55 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: hosepipe

“”Munching carpet is a sin I suppose.. so is cheating on your tithes..””

Very true. And if the cheaters began speaking at “Tithe Cheaters Pride” events I would expect the Church to openly disapprove. See the difference?


45 posted on 02/28/2011 10:23:20 AM PST by getitright (If you call this HOPE, can we give despair a shot?)
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To: ironwill

I don’t buy this. It is a “modern” sect of christianity.

I suspect she is just fishing for a payoff and the reporter is complicit for personal agenda reasons.


46 posted on 02/28/2011 10:24:49 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: circlecity
[ Really? Show me anywhere in the NT where a Christian has a obligation to tithe? ]

"But a man named Ananias with his wife Sapphira sold a piece of property, and with his wife's knowledge he kept back some of the proceeds, and brought only a part and laid it at the apostles' feet." "But Peter said, "Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and to keep back part of the proceeds of the land? While it remained unsold, did it not remain your own? And after it was sold, was it not at your disposal? How is it that you have contrived this deed in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God."

47 posted on 02/28/2011 10:26:39 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: fatez
Do you know what the nature of the false reports were. Not being snarky, I am interested in the details. As we know there are false reports and there are false reports. I wonder if she was railroaded due to her, er ,sexual preferences for some minor administrative violations inflated into being VERY VERY SERIOUS offenses?
48 posted on 02/28/2011 10:27:36 AM PST by robowombat
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To: ClearCase_guy
I agree. There are no small sins. If this church thinks being an unrepentant lesbian is "worse" than some other sins, they are simply wrong. Every member of that congreagation is a sinner, and none are "better" than any other. We all need forgiveness.

While this is true, the method for handling unrepentant sexual sin is clearly laid out. Deliver such a one to stan for the destruction of the flesh so that the soul may be saved. Essentially, shun them until they repent (Which is covered in 2 Cor 2:5-11).

New Life church (if they shunned her) was doing EXACTLY what the bible tells us to do.

49 posted on 02/28/2011 10:28:46 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: DJ MacWoW
[ I think that a lot of people have missed that tithing was to support the tribe of Levi who were the priests and had no land. That doesn’t hold true for the Christian church. ]

Actually the word church has been morphed into what it is not.. "Ekklesia"(church) means the called out ones(not congregation) like a Synagogue.. .. called out of the sheep pens.... John ch 10...

50 posted on 02/28/2011 10:32:12 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: robowombat
Do not remember other than falsifying reports, you can google it with her name though and it will come up.
51 posted on 02/28/2011 10:33:10 AM PST by fatez ("If you're going through Hell, keep going." Winston Churchill)
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To: hosepipe; circlecity
This was about lying to God and not about tithing.

Acts 5:4 d 4 Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to God.

Acts 5: 9

9 Peter said to her, “How could you conspire to test the Spirit of the Lord?

52 posted on 02/28/2011 10:33:43 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: fatez
I answered your question, she is a known perjurer which obviously is not good enough for you to be convinced.

I see. I hope you don't exemplify how New Lifers treat those who may have done wrong in their past -- that would make your church's name a bit fraudulent. And I suppose you have no past sins of your own on which we may judge your present conduct.

I think you, have an axe to grind.

Is that so? What axe do you think I have to grind?

53 posted on 02/28/2011 10:35:07 AM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb
Oh, please. EYE ROLL Pictures, Images and Photos
54 posted on 02/28/2011 10:36:01 AM PST by svcw (God in His own time not ours)
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To: hosepipe; circlecity
[ Really? Show me anywhere in the NT where a Christian has a obligation to tithe? ]

"But a man named Ananias with his wife Sapphira sold a piece of property, and with his wife's knowledge he kept back some of the proceeds, and brought only a part and laid it at the apostles' feet." "But Peter said, "Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and to keep back part of the proceeds of the land? While it remained unsold, did it not remain your own? And after it was sold, was it not at your disposal? How is it that you have contrived this deed in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God."

The quoted passage has NOTHING to do with the tithe. A+S were perfectly within their rights to not sell the land, or to sell it and give part to the church, or to sell it and give all to the church or to sell it and keep it all. They died because they lied and said they were giving all when they weren't.

55 posted on 02/28/2011 10:36:33 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: hosepipe; circlecity

We don’t live under Judaic law and rules. Tithing was to support a priesthood that owned no land. That is not true of Christians.


56 posted on 02/28/2011 10:37:48 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: hosepipe

Uhhh, read the whole passage. Ananias lied about how much he gave. He said he gave the whole sale price of his home yet he held some back. This incident had nothing to do with tithing one’s income and neither tithes or income are even mentioned. This is why Peter asks why he “kept back part of the proceeds” and notes that he had no obligation to sell the house in the first place. There is nothing in the passage that even hints at an obligation to tithe among Christians, rather, we shouldn’t lie to other Christians. Thus, I am still waiting, show me anywhere in the NT where Christians have an obligation to tithe. (Don’t waste too much time looking because it’s not there.)


57 posted on 02/28/2011 10:40:50 AM PST by circlecity
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Do you have any evidence that pastor Boyd has a history of lying?

I wasn't talking about Pastor Boyd. I was calling the FReeper on his conduct. He stated his opinion as fact.

My opinion on the matter, is that the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. Ms. Assam is telling things to make herself look as good as she can.

And I think Mr. Boyd is doing the same.

Nobody disputes that she left: and one must assume that she left for a reason -- probably related to the topic at hand.

The old "more to the story" rule applies here.

58 posted on 02/28/2011 10:44:09 AM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb
Interesting reply, you asked a question, I gave you a factual answer, now you accuse me of throwing stones at her. You do have an axe to grind.

But if you want to know about my sin, I have lots of it and I confess it, New Life is full of sinners including Brady Boyd. Jeanne is welcome to sit in the chairs with all the rest of us liars, adulterers, drug addicts, murders, thieves and hypocrites. We are all sinners at our church and all are welcome including you.

59 posted on 02/28/2011 10:45:11 AM PST by fatez ("If you're going through Hell, keep going." Winston Churchill)
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To: r9etb
Interesting reply, you asked a question, I gave you a factual answer, now you accuse me of throwing stones at her. You do have an axe to grind.

But if you want to know about my sin, I have lots of it and I confess it, New Life is full of sinners including Brady Boyd. Jeanne is welcome to sit in the chairs with all the rest of us liars, adulterers, drug addicts, tax cheats, thieves and hypocrites. We are all sinners at New Life Chursh and all sinners are welcome including you.

60 posted on 02/28/2011 10:46:08 AM PST by fatez ("If you're going through Hell, keep going." Winston Churchill)
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