Posted on 02/25/2011 11:02:54 PM PST by bruinbirdman
They are, Dodik is the most popular politician in Herzogovina because he advocates for the dissolution of Bosnia since the Croats want nothing more to do with the Croat-Muslim Federation.
The only time in Bosnia’s history when Bosnia was a viable standalone entity was before the Turks and Islam arrived, back in the 15th century. Since that time, Bosnia has been ruled either by empires (Ottoman, then Hapsburg) or (until the 1990’s) as a constituent part of Yugoslavia. Bosnia has not stood on its own since the 15th century, but rather has served as a much-needed buffer zone between Serbia and Croatia.
Bosnia is not — never has been and never will be — a viable independent country. Henry Kissinger said it and I said it 20 years ago: There is no cohesive “Bosnian” identity — there are only Bosnian Serbs, Bosnian Croats— and Bosnian Muslims, who are only a slightly larger minority than either, but not both, of the two other groups.
If the Balkans had been allowed to unravel on their own, without outside intervention from us or Germany & the other outside actors, I believe that there would have been nowhere near the bloodshed that happened as a result of intervention and we wouldn’t have half the headaches we do today. The people there would have fought it out and moved on. Slovenia would have worked out the same, minimal bloodshed and recognized independence. Croatia would have had to make deals for their independence like protecting the Serb minority, but they would have had incentives to do so — although I admit that Croatia/Serbia would have been the touchiest and potentially deadliest of wars if it did happen.
But the Bosnian war never needed to happen at all. Before a single shot was fired, the Serbs and the Muslims had a deal, and our guy Warren Zimmerman told the Muslims that they didn’t need to honor it. Why? Because the Muslims didn’t own enough land to create “a country”. They needed war to get that land. Even when the Serbs made a deal with Fikret Abdic, a secular Muslim and actually the duly elected president of Bosnia, we supported the radical Izetbegovic over the moderate Abdic. Why? If “saving Muslims lives” was our goal, why wouldn’t we have taken exploited obvious chances to that?
My point is that we, as part of “the international community”, deliberately supported the creation of two socially and economically non-functional Muslim entities from the former Yugoslavia, Bosnia and Kosovo. These entities don’t work, they can’t work as “countries”, and they will always be dependencies. And Muslims were so emboldened by acquiring these new territories, and became so enshrined as “victims” in the public mind, that Islam has made inroads in the public discourse of not only Europe but the US and Canada.
Our intervention was so carefully crafted that it wasn’t an accident — it couldn’t have been. The law of averages say that with each of thousands of decisions, you can’t come out “wrong” 100% of the time.
So these Muslim entities were created for a reason and hell if I know what they are, with any certainty. What I do know is that their motivation and function in the greater scheme of things, go far beyond the the Balkans and Bosnia.
So if things keep going in the direction that they have been, “what to do about Bosnia” will likely be a moot point in the near future.
Croats hate it when you mention the atrocities of the Ustasa during WWII, they have a complex about it and have spent the better of the past 50 years trying to rewrite history in order to absolve themselves of their guilt.
The Croats have always suffered from an identity crisis, especially during the later half of the 19th Century, they really have a tough time dealing with their insecurity.
Good to know!
Christians and conservatives should be actually helping Russia return to being a Christian nation.
Absolutely right! And Russia is returning to the faith - many never left it - the Orthodox Christian faith of their ancestors, indeed of all our ancestors. The “west” seems to be doing all it can to undermine that.
The irony being that after all of this they now have less land than before the war.
Really? Because I never checked how the Croats & Muslims divided it up in the Muslim/Croat Federation.
The only difference worth noting is that their land is more concentrated in their current form. The Lisbon agreement carved it all up into ethnic districts in an attempt to be like the Switzerland.
Its absolutely sad, in order to create a muslim centric power base in Europe, they intentionally started a war that could have been completely avoided.
No problem, it’s only collateral damage.
Just because you wish to kowtow to the Jihadists, don’t expect to be able to force the Serbs down with you.
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