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San Jose Officials Warn of Massive Police and Fire Layoffs
Mercury News.com ^ | Feb. 17, 2011 | Sean Webby

Posted on 02/24/2011 9:37:34 AM PST by katiedidit1

Sketching out a worst-case scenario of San Jose's budget meltdown, city officials warned this week that they could lay off as many as 349 police officers and 145 firefighters, slashing close to a quarter of the city's public safety employees.

The city is also looking at millions of dollars in other cuts, including shutting off neighborhood

streetlights for much of the night and eliminating some gang-prevention programs.

There has never been a major layoff of police officers in the city's modern history. But last year San Jose laid off 49 firefighters, and this is the second year in a row the Police Department has faced layoffs.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: calif; crushliberalism; democratmayor; democrats; hopeychangey; liberals; unions; wisconsinshowdown
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To: katiedidit1

This the typical goobermint ploy when they want more tax money. Fire the police ! Fire the firefighters !

The heck with that - fire the planners, fire mayoral and city council staff, the BS officials that are there to “enhance revenue”, all the public parasites that drain city coffers and produce NOTHING !


81 posted on 02/24/2011 11:22:43 AM PST by jimt
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To: teenyelliott
Typical leftie scare tactic.

Yep. Next the police chief will testify that unless they get more $$ all citizens will be at grave risk. This tactic has worked well for police and fire departments, but I don't think it will work anymore. The truth is that police agencies have been spoiled for years will rich salaries as well as lots of federal grants. For example, most cities have SWAT teams that train a lot but who rarely respond to calls. They are not needed!! The SWAT Team should consist of street officers who are trained and able switch hats in case of a barricaded suspect incident.

82 posted on 02/24/2011 11:40:03 AM PST by ExtremeUnction
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To: Moonman62

Unions are legal racketeering.


83 posted on 02/24/2011 11:41:43 AM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: katiedidit1

An illegitimate system always seeks to make the first cuts in the most visible symbols, or the very most legitimate functions of government.

This is to maximize the pain, thereby preventing additional changes to the system.

Systems are programmed for survival, sure, but corrupt systems passed through and learned from the corrupting process —these will do ANYTHING to remain the same.


84 posted on 02/24/2011 11:55:11 AM PST by gaijin
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To: justice14
.... same difference but put another way:

When there’s no money, there is no paychecks.

85 posted on 02/24/2011 11:56:37 AM PST by Ron H. (America cannot afford the socialist Impostor!!!)
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To: SpaceBar
They might try zeroing out the social program line items first.

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86 posted on 02/24/2011 11:57:04 AM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Miss_Meyet

They lay them off because they are the problem! I just looked at our county salaries ( Contra Costa Co, CA). The highest paid people ( excepting the doctors in the county hospital whose last names you can’t pronounce) are the county firefighters. The average firefighter makes more than the county administrator, the DA, and most of their deputies, and the sheriff’s dept., is right behind! Try $250,000 per year on a base salary of about $100k. And most of them have other businesses they run when they are not on duty. These guys work the OT/Sickleave game to the max. Firefighters make so much money that they have moved into the affluent communities and have run successfully for the local fire boards. So now, just like everywhere else, they control both sides of the negotiating table. And they have no shame about what they are doing! Our local fire chief retired recently at 51. his last year’s salary was $188k, his first year’s pension was $286k. If he lives to 80, you do the math on what we will shell out. And that does not include his medical benes for him and his spouse until both of them die!


87 posted on 02/24/2011 11:59:09 AM PST by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: katiedidit1

But we still have money for artists and Obamacare right?


88 posted on 02/24/2011 12:06:47 PM PST by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: Leisler

excellent reply, our Founders would agree with you. Liberty is being lost at an accelerating rate.


89 posted on 02/24/2011 12:10:13 PM PST by sand88
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To: katiedidit1

Go ahead, lay them off. Their wives, husbands, brothers, sisters, mom, dad, sons, daughters live there and their security will be comprimised while parks are still open and the city’s Taj Mahal’s don’t miss a beat. They live there, so if they think there is no need for the police and firefighters, well, they have to deal witht he aftermath.


90 posted on 02/24/2011 12:20:16 PM PST by nomobs (Just do it)
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To: Red Badger
Water and Sewer services are usually rife with nepotism hires, that are unnecessary. They systems usually run themselves with little human intervention until repairs are necessary and that can be contracted.................

That would work. And I agree with you regarding the nepotism and patronage jobs in the government -- there seems to be a lot of that at all levels (like that lady 'official' in Oakland who had the police called off from going after her gangster nephew).
I was just reacting to the list of other jobs you listed (e.g., Libraries, parks, etc) -- which are merely luxuries and should be culled from the government's budget (IF we were rolling in dough it would be one thing to consider - but we aren't ... nor should the government ever be 'rolling in dough' -- because its our dough)...

91 posted on 02/24/2011 12:31:26 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Red Badger

I don’t much care about the rest. But once you shoot your utilities in the head your quality of life goes downhill fast. Think mass cholera outbreaks and such. No one in your life does more to benefit mankind than sanitation/utility workers. Not doctors, or anyone else. BTW I am not one. Merely a civil engineer.


92 posted on 02/24/2011 12:56:38 PM PST by smaug6 (We can't afford to be innocent!! Stand up and face the enemy.)
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To: smaug6

I know they are important facilities, but usually they are way overstaffed, via nepotism and back scratching. They could be privatized................


93 posted on 02/24/2011 1:02:52 PM PST by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name. Want to have fun? Google your friend's names.....)
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To: katiedidit1

sure, gon’t cut any socialist programs


94 posted on 02/24/2011 1:13:37 PM PST by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: katiedidit1
Declare bankruptcy and let a judge make the painful decisions.
95 posted on 02/24/2011 1:30:07 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: katiedidit1

I work in liberal San Jose. How about volunteer Fire and Police service? When you have no $, can’t keep spending! City should call Jerry Brown and ask for a bailout - LOL


96 posted on 02/24/2011 1:36:31 PM PST by kgrif_Salinas
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To: Leisler
Police don’t protect you. They show up after you have been robbed, raped, broken in to. More than half the time they don’t even make an arrest. If they do, half aren’t even charged or sentenced to jail. Not that that stops criminals.

This country got by just fine with out police for three hundred years. Worried about your safety? Get a gun and balls. Got a lot of stuff? Protect it. Or hire others to protect it. Can not afford it? Sell some some stuff, you got too much stuff. Or move. Or not. You are an adult. Why should others be taxed to protect your stuff?

Police are welfare security. They are to security what welfare housing projects are to real neighbors.

Personally, I wouldn’t mind a couple of years of lawlessness( of a type ). Let the scum, dolts, expose themselves so that they can be shotgun’d down and bleed in the streets, business, and homes.

Of course naturally this will result in starving lawyers, laid off judges, prison hack jailers and legions of time serving, clock punching, paper shufflers of the security welfare state. Good.

You know, you'd think the law & order types and the cop cheerleaders on FR would have gotten wise to the game after Bill Clinton & Eliot Spitzer, or now the current crop of Too Big To Prosecute banksters.

Law is for the little people, and as they lard on more & more "law" every year, it puts us peasants at grave risk.

97 posted on 02/24/2011 1:42:36 PM PST by an amused spectator (Islamic law upholds that children born to a Muslim father are automatically Muslim)
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To: Red Badger

I agree that is the case in some places. I am merely pointing out the dealing will American’s Sh!t is a massive undertaking. There is a lot of distributed infrastructure you don’t see. It isn’t always reliable as everyone likes to think. It is pretty old in a lot of places. We have screwed this part of our country for decades.


98 posted on 02/24/2011 1:44:26 PM PST by smaug6 (We can't afford to be innocent!! Stand up and face the enemy.)
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To: sappy
Gas prices are getting close to $4 per gallon again, the cost of living in terms of housing costs and energy?

Last time, the $4 a gallon breaking point happened at all-time low food prices. This time, the current food inflation means the breaking point will be between $3.50-$3.75.

Of course, the professional "economists" don't have a clue about it...

99 posted on 02/24/2011 1:45:32 PM PST by an amused spectator (Islamic law upholds that children born to a Muslim father are automatically Muslim)
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To: katiedidit1
If this is what the budget dictates, then so be it.

I'd like to see what they will continue to pay for while laying off public safety employees.

100 posted on 02/24/2011 1:50:20 PM PST by Mr.Unique (Global Emergency!)
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