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Seattle couple murdered by pirates; Would guns on board be smart?
Seattle Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 22 February, 2011 | Dave Workman

Posted on 02/23/2011 8:10:07 PM PST by marktwain

Four Americans, including a Seattle couple, aboard a private yacht hijacked by Somali pirates are dead this morning, and readers reacting to the CBS story on-line are wondering why any of the pirates were taken alive. Likewise, after the Seattle Times caught up with the story at about 7:25 a.m., it didn’t take long for readers to suggest that the pirates be taught a lesson.

The incident is hardly a first in that part of the world. Somali pirates have been emboldened by the willingness of some victims to pay outrageous ransoms. Reports indicate that negotiations were underway between the pirates and a U.S. warship nearby.

Today’s dead are identified as Seattleites Bob Riggle and Phyllis Macay, along with Californians Scott and Jean Adam, who owned the Quest, whose home port may be Marina del Rey, where the Adams lived.

Then we should bring the Navy in and blast those Somalian (sic) MF's back into the stone age (or farther back into it). If a Somolian (sic) ship is at sea and is not fishing, blow them up and ask questions later.—Seattle Times reader

Early in the Obama administration, Navy SEAL marksmen took out some pirates holding a merchant captain hostage, but one can now conclude that message was insufficient to convince pirates that attacking boats or ships on the high seas, sailing under the American flag, is a bad idea. It will be up to the administration to take appropriate action. Examiner readers are encouraged to comment below, explaining what you think would be appropriate.

Meanwhile, what can private vessels do to discourage pirates or defend against them?

This column checked on line and it appears that it is legal – with some red tape, naturally – to carry arms aboard.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; gun; maritime; pirates; scottadam; selfdefense; somali; somalipirates
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To: marktwain

Q ships!


41 posted on 02/23/2011 8:49:30 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft (I see a dark cloud coming over the horizon, and its reminiscent of 1939.)
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To: marktwain

The best solution I can think of is for Obama to grow a pair, and then armor up a normal looking boat and put some marines on board with big arse guns. Surprise blow up about 4 ships out of the water and the rest of the scum pirates will think twice about their godless profession.


42 posted on 02/23/2011 8:53:59 PM PST by LowOiL ("Abomination" sure sounds like "ObamaNation" to me.)
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To: Bridge_toofar

“How naive of them to sail into pirate infested waters without a boatload of firearms. What did these people think, that Jesus would save them? Unbelievable!”

I know you will probably not understand this but, Jesus did save them. Our lives are (relatively speaking) not of great value, it is our souls that truly matter. These good Christian’s souls are with our Lord Jesus Christ tonight. Indeed, they are the lucky ones...


43 posted on 02/23/2011 8:54:11 PM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Wpin

Amen


44 posted on 02/23/2011 8:58:38 PM PST by LowOiL ("Abomination" sure sounds like "ObamaNation" to me.)
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To: marktwain
The Ultimate Adventure Cruise

One week cruise, offered by Russian company, from Djibouti to Mombasa. Boat is well-equipped.

We guarantee that you will experience at least two hijacking attempts by pirates or you'll receive an instant $1,000 refund upon arrival in Mombassa.

45 posted on 02/23/2011 9:02:44 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

Man them Russians know how to party. Did you see the vid of them taking out the pirate scum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIVz4tZRbRE


46 posted on 02/23/2011 9:13:39 PM PST by TsonicTsunami08
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To: Bringbackthedraft
Q ships!

Exactly! And long overdue!

47 posted on 02/23/2011 9:15:03 PM PST by sjmjax (Politicans are like bananas - they start out green, turn yellow, then rot.)
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To: GOP_Muzik
... I would bet good money ...

In todays situation where will you get it? I am not talking about money, I am talking about GOOD money.

48 posted on 02/23/2011 9:20:20 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government!)
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To: cynwoody

Is that for real?


49 posted on 02/23/2011 9:24:45 PM PST by MrInvisible
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To: Wpin

I rather be alive to marvel & experience at the wondrous world around me. No thanks, I do not wish to die before nature has designed my body to survive and experience the love and affection of people around me. I value life very much. If you want to die before your time and meet Jesus, be my guest.


50 posted on 02/23/2011 9:27:49 PM PST by Bridge_toofar (Islam grows silently like cancer and when large enough it kills the host)
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To: tet68

God bless Remington!


51 posted on 02/23/2011 9:39:36 PM PST by matthew fuller (My list: Bachman, Barbour, Bolton, Cain, Liz Cheney, Daniels, DeMint, Inhofe, Palin, and Pawlenty .)
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To: MrInvisible
Is that for real?

Um, no. It's still a nice idea, though.

I would think anyone sailing through those waters ought to invest in one of these. Or just stay home.

52 posted on 02/23/2011 9:41:12 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: BigCinBigD

I agree. However, as much in favor of being armed as I am, in this situation taking a gun into a RPG fight is not a winning strategy either.


53 posted on 02/23/2011 9:44:44 PM PST by matthew fuller (My list: Bachman, Barbour, Bolton, Cain, Liz Cheney, Daniels, DeMint, Inhofe, Palin, and Pawlenty .)
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To: GOP_Muzik

Yea , if this country had any balls it would be a great idea. There are ways to stop thinks quickly but we are too kind and gentle to protect ourselves anymore, those days are gone gone gone.


54 posted on 02/23/2011 9:45:01 PM PST by sonic109 (Civil Unrest is in Order !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

....”Q ships!”....

Bingo!

(For those that do not know what a “Q-ship” is, the post right below Bringbackthedraft’s explains it.)


55 posted on 02/23/2011 9:45:06 PM PST by Mtner77
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To: Bridge_toofar; All

My aunt and uncle, good Republicans, living in Gettysburg during the Eisenhower years were so proud of their brand new well stocked bomb shelter. They showed us the food, the medical kit, the tools, the water. We asked, where is your gun? They said, gun? What gun? We laughed and said, well, if it comes to that we will drive the hundred miles with ours and protect you and your food and help you eat it.


56 posted on 02/23/2011 9:45:51 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: LowOiL

That’s the way . Have a bunch of Navy Seal below deck armed to the balls. Maybe a hidden canon topside . Get the tough guys to come close ready to board and then unleash all holy hell on them . Do that for awhile and these scumbags will go back to farming or whatever the hell one does in that toilet of a country.
WE KNOW HOW TO TAKE CARE OF A LOT OF THINGS..terrorism , crime , pirates ..we just don’t do it .Pussy nation


57 posted on 02/23/2011 9:51:28 PM PST by sonic109 (Civil Unrest is in Order !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: matthew fuller

Do they make Five inch navel guns for sail boats?


58 posted on 02/23/2011 10:04:26 PM PST by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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To: BigCinBigD

My post was referencing normal small arms, and handguns. Now if it is possible to arm your yacht with a .50 BMG, I think that might provide a little more of a protection against pirates.


59 posted on 02/23/2011 10:15:10 PM PST by matthew fuller (My list: Bachman, Barbour, Bolton, Cain, Liz Cheney, Daniels, DeMint, Inhofe, Palin, and Pawlenty .)
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To: Bridge_toofar
"How naive of them to sail into pirate infested waters without a boatload of firearms. What did these people think, that Jesus would save them? Unbelievable!"

Ummm .... Jesus already did save them ... he saved their souls, and yours and mine, on a cross 2,000 years ago. Your casual words actually speak sacred truth.

It was presumably because they didn't fear death that they chose, unwisely, the route they chose.

I heard that they were sailing with a larger group yet broke away.

I wouldn't be so quick to judge that they were stupid or idiotic to have done what they did. Perhaps they willingly entered a risky zone. I also expect that the reason they were shot is because they were witnessing to the Muslim Somali pirates. One of the hotheads probably screamed "Allahu Akbar" and shot them in rage. I expect we'll know the true story soon enough.

60 posted on 02/23/2011 10:18:13 PM PST by tom h
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