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Unrest and the Libyan Military
Stratfor ^ | 02/21/2011 | staff

Posted on 02/21/2011 10:33:23 AM PST by Uncle Miltie

Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi has ordered the Libyan air force to fire on military installations in Libya, according to what the BBC has characterized as a reliable source. Al Jazeera has suggested that air force fighters have opened fire on crowds of protesters.

Though the latter would be particularly draconian, the more important question is whether these signs reflect a split within the regime and Gadhafi using military force to crush opposition to his regime emerging from the military or other security forces. Similar reports of the Libyan navy firing on targets onshore also are emerging, as well as reports that Gadhafi has given execution orders to soldiers who have refused to fire on Libyan protesters.

... The use of these weapons is more appropriate for other armed entities rather than unarmed protesters. Libyan troops are good at instilling fear, but not good at stabilizing a situation, so the military may not be able to get in on the ground due to lost capability.

... these latest developments combined with recent reports of defections of military units to the demonstrators’ side continue to draw STRATFOR’s attention to the possibility that the regime is fracturing.

(Excerpt) Read more at stratfor.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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Wow!!! "Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi has ordered the Libyan air force to fire on military installations in Libya"

... = Edited Excerpt

1 posted on 02/21/2011 10:33:25 AM PST by Uncle Miltie
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To: Uncle Miltie

Farandwide: RT @iyad_elbaghdadi: Over a hundred bodies of soldiers who refused to follow orders, found at Fadhil camp in #Benghazi, in mass grave. #Feb17 #Libya


2 posted on 02/21/2011 10:43:11 AM PST by Uncle Miltie ("And did you exchange a walk on part in a war, for a lead role in a cage?")
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To: Uncle Miltie
Looks like to keep weaponry out of rebels’ hands.
Interestingly - though US media just reported that Gaddhafi is going to Venezuela, I've got that news from friends in Russia roughly 24 hours ago...
3 posted on 02/21/2011 10:51:12 AM PST by alecqss
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To: Uncle Miltie
Looks like to keep weaponry out of rebels’ hands.
Interestingly - though US media just reported that Gaddhafi is going to Venezuela, I've got that news from friends in Russia roughly 24 hours ago...
4 posted on 02/21/2011 10:51:26 AM PST by alecqss
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Thanks Uncle Miltie. Meanwhile, some Libyan military aircraft have defected (so to speak) to nearby Malta.


5 posted on 02/21/2011 10:52:53 AM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Now also Iran!

Check THIS out, with the crowd swarming all over the motorcycle-riding BASIJ...!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNoxv1dIVnc

JUST WOW!


6 posted on 02/21/2011 11:21:00 AM PST by gaijin
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To: Uncle Miltie

That could explain why at least 2 Mirage fighters fled to Malta. They didn’t want to attack their own people?


7 posted on 02/21/2011 11:29:49 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: gaijin

File that under “definition of torn apart by the mob”.


8 posted on 02/21/2011 11:39:09 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: gaijin

I agree. Just WOW


9 posted on 02/21/2011 11:48:07 AM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (Insane, Corrupt Democrats or Stupid, Spinless Republicans - Pick America's poison.)
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To: gaijin

How’d Mal put it in Serenity/Firefly? “Time to misbehave!”


10 posted on 02/21/2011 11:49:09 AM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (Insane, Corrupt Democrats or Stupid, Spinless Republicans - Pick America's poison.)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

I guess freedom is spreading like wild-fire now. President Bush was right! Lit the fire in Iraq and it is spreading. Now what kind of freedom - who knows.


11 posted on 02/21/2011 12:07:47 PM PST by silentknight
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To: Uncle Miltie

Can’t trust his own soldiers...he is going down.


12 posted on 02/21/2011 12:08:02 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

AlAribya quotes sources inside Libyan military that an airstrike has been authorized on Benghazi, the first city to rise up during the protests.


13 posted on 02/21/2011 12:18:22 PM PST by silentknight
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To: silentknight
Yup. THere as they say lies the rub.

Problem is that even if they get a democracy, at the first recession or if it doesn't make things better instantly, they're going to just put in another thug/military junta/theocracy of mad mullahs again.

You can take the Arab out of the peasants but you can't take the peasant out of the Arab.

14 posted on 02/21/2011 12:29:20 PM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (Insane, Corrupt Democrats or Stupid, Spinless Republicans - Pick America's poison.)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

The party for America may finally be coming to an end. It was a nice run, though.


15 posted on 02/21/2011 12:40:30 PM PST by silentknight
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Someone else needs to control the airspace over Libya. If our carriers are too far out, how about fighters from bases in Italy refueled? What if we asked the Egyptians to control the air?

Someone needs to stop the bombing and strafing of civilians. That can be a foreign party. Let’s get someone, preferrably good guys and definitely not the Libyans to control the airspace.


16 posted on 02/21/2011 12:58:11 PM PST by Uncle Miltie ("And did you exchange a walk on part in a war, for a lead role in a cage?")
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Why is the US Air Force/US Navy not shooting down the Libyan air force right now? Why are our Marines not landing in Tripoli?


17 posted on 02/21/2011 1:03:41 PM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: Uncle Miltie

This is what they did to Libyan soldiers who refused to kill their fellow brothers and sisters

http://muscvlvs.blogspot.com/2011/02/this-is-what-they-did-to-libyan.html


18 posted on 02/21/2011 1:03:51 PM PST by jennychase
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To: Uncle Miltie

Not Americans. Let them kill each other as far as I’m concerned but keep our men out of it.


19 posted on 02/21/2011 2:27:35 PM PST by pgkdan (Protect and Defend America! End the practice of islam on our shores before it's too late!)
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Why is the US Air Force/US Navy not shooting down the Libyan air force right now? Why are our Marines not landing in Tripoli?

How in the hell is this our probelm!? Every damn Libyan alive today is not worth the blood of one deam US Marine! To hell with it...we can't afford the obligations we've got now we don't need to assume any more.

20 posted on 02/21/2011 2:29:55 PM PST by pgkdan (Protect and Defend America! End the practice of islam on our shores before it's too late!)
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