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Florida threatens to shred 2012 calendar
Politico ^ | February 19, 2011 | Alexander Burns

Posted on 02/19/2011 3:51:09 PM PST by Hawk720

A deepening standoff between national Republicans and top party leaders in Florida has the potential to blow up the 2012 presidential primary calendar — and do lasting damage to the GOP in the nation’s largest swing state.

At issue is the early date of Florida’s presidential primary election, currently set for Jan. 31, 2012. As of right now, it’s the first primary scheduled.

That’s in blatant violation of Republican and Democratic National Committee rules, which say only four states — Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada – can hold primary elections before the beginning of March.

But despite the pleas of GOP officials in Washington, the Republican leaders of Florida’s legislature say they have no intention of shifting the date in a way that could diminish the Sunshine State’s influence in 2012. Key officials signaled they would accept nothing less than going fifth on the primary calendar — not leapfrogging the four early states, but clearly marked off from the other 45.

“Florida’s the most important presidential state and we’d like to keep our current position as one of the early states,” said state Senate President Mike Haridopolos, who called Florida “the first so-called ‘megastate’ in the presidential race.”

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 20120131; 2012election; haridopolos; mikeharidopolos; primaries
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1 posted on 02/19/2011 3:51:12 PM PST by Hawk720
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There ought to be one primary day for all fifty states, but that would eliminate the ability of the ruling class to manipulate the outcome.
2 posted on 02/19/2011 3:53:53 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: Hawk720

[That’s in blatant violation of Republican and Democratic National Committee rules, which say only four states — Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada – can hold primary elections before the beginning of March]

Huh? WHY?

Call me clueless, but can someone please explain the rationale behind this rule. And why does the RNC make the rules?


3 posted on 02/19/2011 3:53:59 PM PST by KansasGirl (1)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

To me its seems that this in inevitably headed in exactly that direction.


4 posted on 02/19/2011 3:56:43 PM PST by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I disagree.
I like having a chance to correct errors.
I also think that the entire purpose of the primary system is to give the “2nd choice” candidates a chance, when everyone’s first choice doesn't make it in other States.

We often nominate a strong #2, from the early States.

REALITY does not set in, with some of our folks, until they see real numbers.

5 posted on 02/19/2011 3:58:50 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
There ought to be one primary day for all fifty states, but that would eliminate the ability of the ruling class to manipulate the outcome.

It would also eliminate any candidate unable to raise at least $250 million up front.

6 posted on 02/19/2011 3:59:23 PM PST by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: Hawk720

Seems to me a State can set their primary anytime they want. If a political party has a problem with that, then they do not have to participate.


7 posted on 02/19/2011 4:00:10 PM PST by Fantomw
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Now that’s a law I could live with!


8 posted on 02/19/2011 4:01:08 PM PST by exnavy (May the Lord bless and keep our troops.)
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To: Hawk720

The rule is ludicrous and needs to go. If you’re going to stagger the primaries, at least you should rotate the order so that all states eventually get their chance to be near the front.


9 posted on 02/19/2011 4:02:50 PM PST by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: Kansas58

If the whole primary was at once I believe it would have been Myth Vs Hillary. 0 came on strong late as did McCain


10 posted on 02/19/2011 4:03:23 PM PST by omega4179
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To: KansasGirl
And why does the RNC make the rules?

Who else should make the rules for how the Republican Party's nominee is chosen?

11 posted on 02/19/2011 4:03:45 PM PST by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: Hawk720
violation of Republican and Democratic National Committee rules...

This has always made no conservative sense to me. Of course, there are cost savings to be had by having repub and rat primaries on the same day, but still, that day is either good for republican conservatives or its not.. and should not be negotiated with 'rats. This is part of the problem in recent years of giving us a mcPain and the like.

12 posted on 02/19/2011 4:05:45 PM PST by C210N (0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
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To: Fantomw
Seems to me a State can set their primary anytime they want.

Of course they can; that's not in dispute here.

If a political party has a problem with that, then they do not have to participate.

Or, as in this case, they can reduce or eliminate that state's representation at the party's national convention.

13 posted on 02/19/2011 4:06:04 PM PST by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: Hawk720

It should a lottery, let all 50 governors meet in Washington and draw from a hat.


14 posted on 02/19/2011 4:06:13 PM PST by Sybeck1 (Memo to Mitt Romney: Just go away.............)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

>>>>There ought to be one primary day for all fifty states, but that would eliminate the ability of the ruling class to manipulate the outcome.

And primaries should be closed to registered voters for a party who’ve been registered at least 6 months or more with their party affiliation.


15 posted on 02/19/2011 4:06:41 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: Hawk720

SPIN!!!

There’s no problem, here. The states will schedule eventually as follows when funding becomes available:

IOWA TUES JAN 8
NH TUES JAN 15
NEVADA SAT JAN 19
SC TUES JAN 24
FL TUES JAN 31

Problem? What Problem? Looks pretty close to the 2008 schedule if you ask me? I think WY also head a caucus the same weekend as NV.


16 posted on 02/19/2011 4:06:47 PM PST by parksstp (Articulate Conservatives look for Converts. RINO's look for Democrat Heretics.)
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To: Hawk720
Screw the RNC, Iowa, New Hampshire, and the horse they rode in on.
17 posted on 02/19/2011 4:08:26 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
There ought to be one primary day for all fifty states, but that would eliminate the ability of the ruling class to manipulate the outcome.

If there was one primary day for all fifty states, then we would know the winner beforehand.

The candidate with the most money would win the most votes.

The way the primaries are structured now actually makes it possible for a moderately funded/unestablishment type to win. The Iowa caucus is a small state...and the structure isn't susceptible to big ad bucks. New Hampshire is another small state where face-to-face is more important than media bucks.

The current structure allows the less well-funded candidates to compete...and earn themselves a bigger share of the contributions.

18 posted on 02/19/2011 4:09:47 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: okie01
The candidate with the most money would win the most votes.

Bull-effing-$@#%.

If that were the case, then all elections would be won by Democrats.

You're one of those "we have to get the money out of politics" bozos, aren't you?

19 posted on 02/19/2011 4:11:52 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: Hawk720

20% of our CORN CROP is now Ethanol, despite everyone with a brain agreeing it’s a really STUPID policy; world food prices are through the roof, in part because of this diversion; somewhat friendly governments in Egypt and Tunisia have been overthrown, in part due to food prices; Saudi Arabia and other big oil producers may be next.

...and why...because of the Iowa Caucuses.

MORE POWER TO FLORIDA!!! Maybe we can start buying real gasoline again if they pull this off.


20 posted on 02/19/2011 4:12:28 PM PST by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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