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Greenest cars: natural gas Honda Civic GX, Nissan Leaf electric and, just barely, Chevrolet Volt
L.A. Times ^ | 2/15/11 | Tiffany Hsu

Posted on 02/15/2011 10:05:39 PM PST by Nachum

For a list of the greenest 2011 model-year vehicles, there sure are a lot of traditional gasoline engines among the top 12 cars ranked by the American Council for an Energy-Efficient Economy. The council's 14th annual ratings of the most eco-friendly cars on the market include internal combustion models such as the Smart Fortwo, the Ford Fiesta and the Hyundai Elantra. (Snip) The battery manufacturing and disposal processes -– which can be emissions-laden and toxic -– were also factored into the calculations and knocked electricity-dependent vehicles down a few rungs.

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KEYWORDS: cars; chargingstations; coalburners; ev; gas; greenest; natural; recharchingstations; recharging
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1 posted on 02/15/2011 10:05:43 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

“recharging” PINGWORD added.


2 posted on 02/15/2011 10:08:35 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Nachum

I’d like to thank the LAT to listing the cars not to buy.


3 posted on 02/15/2011 10:09:31 PM PST by max americana
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For a smaller car, the Ford Fiesta is very good and safe. If gas goes to $5 a gallon then it will be very popular. A nat gas car is a good idea as America has a lot of NG and the cost is about $1.50 a gallon.


4 posted on 02/15/2011 10:11:48 PM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: Nachum

The thread could have also been titled “Biggest wastes of money”


5 posted on 02/15/2011 10:14:54 PM PST by Bullish (Obama's obviously drunk at the wheel and should be taken off the road before he gets people killed)
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To: Frantzie
....the Ford Fiesta is very good and safe.

Seriously?

They might be kinda safe if you keep them in the driveway. The fiesta against any real vehicle on the highway is dead meat.

6 posted on 02/15/2011 10:18:28 PM PST by Bullish (Obama's obviously drunk at the wheel and should be taken off the road before he gets people killed)
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To: Nachum
The battery manufacturing and disposal processes -– which can be emissions-laden and toxic

Might as well go back to leaded fuel.

7 posted on 02/15/2011 10:23:17 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: Nachum

The Fourtwo, Mini Cooper and Volt require premium gasoline, which is a negative as far as cost to operate is concerned.


8 posted on 02/15/2011 10:23:25 PM PST by smokingfrog ( BORN free - taxed to DEATH (and beyond) ...)
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To: He Rides A White Horse

Not only that, the batteries are incredibly toxic to create in the first place. Nobody knows how to deal with the waste. These cars are so toxic, that leaded fuel would be better.


9 posted on 02/15/2011 10:25:52 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Frantzie; Bullish

This is what a safe car looks like. Picked one up for $100 six years ago. Yes, diesel is more expensive than gas, but other than that, it's built like a tank.

10 posted on 02/15/2011 10:27:19 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (We need more Democrats in the Senate --Like Custer needed more arrows.)
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These cars are so toxic, that leaded fuel would be better.

Probably would be. With today's technology, combined with leaded gas (which allows for much higher compression, which is free torque and horsepower) I would bet that small engines would produce impressive power and efficiency.

11 posted on 02/15/2011 10:32:41 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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“....and she’ll have fun fun fun ‘till her daddy takes the Prius away-y-y-y”

“...giddyap giddyap Chevy Volt/my 1-speed/dual powered/ front-wheel-drive Chevy Volt” apologies to the Beach Boys

Folks, this is why they don’t write songs about hybrids. ;)


12 posted on 02/15/2011 10:44:10 PM PST by Impala64ssa
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The one in the picture looks great. They will last forever especially the diesels. Well they own the NY Stock Exchange and have to be a lot less corrupt than the former owners.


13 posted on 02/15/2011 10:52:29 PM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: Impala64ssa

Good one.


14 posted on 02/15/2011 10:56:32 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah, I’d hate to see what happens to a Fiesta up against that.

Instead of a “Fiesta” it would be more like a “Pinata”.


15 posted on 02/15/2011 11:01:01 PM PST by Bullish (Obama's obviously drunk at the wheel and should be taken off the road before he gets people killed)
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To: Bullish

Or, DIEsta.


16 posted on 02/15/2011 11:05:24 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: smokingfrog

My 2007 Mustang GT gets better than advertised at 26+ mpg highway on regular gas...........sweeeeeeeeeeeet! Our 2001 Neon gets 38 mpg...........again, regular. Both very reliable.


17 posted on 02/15/2011 11:08:06 PM PST by Puckster
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2011 Ford Mustang V6 achieves record 48.5 MPG
18 posted on 02/15/2011 11:16:08 PM PST by smokingfrog ( BORN free - taxed to DEATH (and beyond) ...)
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NICE! When returning from the keys in Florida, we were driving on the turnpike, right lane, cruise, A/C....which is when I got 26.6. If it was in the fall or spring and perfect temps, no A/C cracked windows or fresh air blowing, I believe I could have cracked 28 mpg. I could have bought a Civic Hybrid and getting 33mpg because Honda’s cure for poor battery performance under warranty is to reprogram the car for more engine and less battery leaving me wondering why I bought the car at an advertised 45mpg.


19 posted on 02/15/2011 11:32:55 PM PST by Puckster
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2008 Mercury Mariner Hybrid. In harsh Winter
weather, 20 MPG. In perfect weather (75F),
cruise control and steady highway speeds...
32 MPG. Long term mixed average weather
and driving, about 26 MPG. It’s a fair weather
vehicle if optimal efficiency is the aim. Limited
towing capacity...1,000 lbs.


20 posted on 02/15/2011 11:54:26 PM PST by Myrddin
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