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REPORT: General Petraeus To Quit As US Commander In Afghanistan
.businessinsider ^ | Feb 15, 2011

Posted on 02/15/2011 3:04:29 PM PST by VRWCTexan

General David Petraeus, the most celebrated American soldier of his generation, is to leave his post as commander of US and Nato forces in Afghanistan. The Times can reveal that the Pentagon aims to replace General Petraeus, who was appointed less than eight months ago, by the end of the year

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/petraeus-out-2011-2#ixzz1E4UKvDdB

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; generaldavidpetraeus; obama; petraeus; taliban; wot
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To: VRWCTexan

You mean he can’t take Obama’s restrictions and micro-management of the war effort any longer?


141 posted on 02/16/2011 4:35:33 AM PST by 2harddrive
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To: wintertime
I can not defend a strawman argument of your creation

And I cannot take you seriously.

142 posted on 02/16/2011 5:10:25 AM PST by r9etb
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To: VRWCTexan

No sure it’s true, but I can’t imagine he would want to serve under this CIC. After all, everything Obama is doing is agenda-driven.


143 posted on 02/16/2011 5:10:35 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: butterdezillion
Consider the logic of your comment, such as it is.

You're essentially suggesting that the military go on strike in time of war.

No thanks.

144 posted on 02/16/2011 5:13:40 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Lancey Howard
Mullen was the poofter Ubama and the rats needed for their assault on the military, with the repeal of DADT.

Mullen was appointed by Bush in 2007.

145 posted on 02/16/2011 5:17:57 AM PST by K-Stater
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To: wintertime
There is NO POSSIBLE WAY that I would vote for a man that let LTC Lakin and Major Cook swing slowly in the wind.

Neither man fell under his chain of command. What would you have had General Petreaus do?

146 posted on 02/16/2011 5:19:23 AM PST by K-Stater
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To: Steel Wolf
Petraeus has more ability, intellect and stature than Obama and the next five GOP contenders put together.

Which is why he would never debase himself by getting into electoral politics.

147 posted on 02/16/2011 5:21:18 AM PST by K-Stater
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To: Cicero

Obama needs to be impeached, tried for treason and sentenced by a jury of military families who lost loved ones due to Obama’s Rules of Engagement.


148 posted on 02/16/2011 5:22:58 AM PST by thethirddegree (Islam is a vile, barbaric, perverted, depraved,seditious cult invented by a murdering pedophile)
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To: MichaelCorleone
Good point; very good point.

What would you have had General Petraeus do?

149 posted on 02/16/2011 5:23:06 AM PST by K-Stater
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To: nhwingut

Nelson Rockefeller is the Gold Standard of RINOs....


150 posted on 02/16/2011 5:23:06 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: K-Stater
Mullen was appointed by Bush in 2007.

Yes, after Bush threw Peter Pace under the bus because Pace had voiced opposition to repeal of DADT. The rats wanted Pace gone and would settle for nothing less than a poofter like Mullen. Bush was once again a punching bag for the rats, as he was for most of his 8 years.

151 posted on 02/16/2011 5:31:03 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: r9etb

No, I’m suggesting that we have a Constitutional president in time of war, for national security reasons such as the need for LAWFUL orders.

I’m suggesting that if the men and women who have offered to give up their lives in defense of this country and her Constitution have questions of conscience as to whether their oath allows them to obey a particular order, their chain of command and CINC take their concerns seriously and not f@rt around with them as if it’s some stupid game.

Radical, I know, to expect that anybody actually CARES about the oath they make.

Lakin was one man who was willing to represent the whole body of officers who had concerns. It would have taken one action by the CINC to answer the questions of conscience for the whole group. There was no need for everybody to “go on strike in time of war”. All that was needed was a CINC who was willing to respond to ONE person. He wasn’t, and we pretty much know now that it’s because he is an unconstitutional usurper whose orders are all unlawful.

The chain of command should know above everyone else what a national security risk that was. They didn’t care. They picked their noses while sticking out their tongues at a man whose latrine they weren’t worthy to clean. Despicable.


152 posted on 02/16/2011 5:43:03 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
Lots of Large Words. But the logic of your comments says that the military shouldn't do anything, because all their orders would be illegal.

The real world has a way of highlighting stupidity....

153 posted on 02/16/2011 5:46:14 AM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb

No, my words say that the military should have requested clarification as Lakin asked them to do for over a year.

The fact that they didn’t has consequences.

If Lakin’s brigade commanders had ordered him to combat operations in Iran should he have gone? Should the chain of command have sent him to prison if he refused? Why or why not? The only difference between Iran and Afghanistan is that we have (supposedly) had a POTUS authorize the use of force in Afghanistan. If that isn’t actually true - if there has been no legally valid authorization for the use of force in Afghanistan - then the orders to Afghanistan are just as unlawful as orders to Iran.

For Judge Lind to say that proper authorization is irrelevant to the lawfulness of orders means that any brigade commander can initiate war without valid legal authorization. Now THAT is dangerous. And everybody in the chain of command was fully cognizant of that fact. They allowed Judge Lind to set a precedent that blows away the entire structure of authority and lawfulness.

It doesn’t get any more serious than this.


154 posted on 02/16/2011 5:53:57 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: r9etb
Butterbean’s words are his/her own nemesis. ;-)
155 posted on 02/16/2011 5:57:01 AM PST by verity
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To: pissant
Running for office, I presume?

I hope not, since he has described himself as a "Rockefeller Republican".

156 posted on 02/16/2011 6:04:04 AM PST by montag813 (http://www.facebook.com/StandWithArizona)
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To: K-Stater
**All** of the men under Patraeus fell under the command of Patraeus.
157 posted on 02/16/2011 6:09:10 AM PST by wintertime
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To: butterdezillion
They picked their noses while sticking out their tongues at a man whose latrine they weren’t worthy to clean. Despicable.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

EXACTLY! Despicable!

Butter, you do have a way with words!

158 posted on 02/16/2011 6:15:47 AM PST by wintertime
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To: VRWCTexan

Positioning for a run at the White Hut.


159 posted on 02/16/2011 6:41:15 AM PST by IbJensen (Grab your pitchforks!)
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To: montag813

Hell, he’d be right at home with most of the clods who keep threatening to run. He’d be the most honest, anyway


160 posted on 02/16/2011 6:44:26 AM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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