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To: Kaslin

I’m jusr a poor, unsaved, ingnorant Jew. Maybe someone can explain what your Jesus meant when he said, “He who is without sin, let him cast the first stone.”

And what about all those Old Testement commandments that are no longer valid? Like eating ham? How come that is OK, but buggery is not?


32 posted on 02/14/2011 8:29:12 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: Daveinyork
I’m jusr a poor, unsaved, ingnorant Jew. Maybe someone can explain what your Jesus meant when he said, “He who is without sin, let him cast the first stone.”

Sure can.

The law was that a couple had to be caught in the act of adultery and both brought for judgment. There also had to be witnesses. The punishment for not doing so would be the same as that for the accused. In other words they'd be stoned.

They were trying to set Jesus up but they broke the law. The dude was nowhere to be found and there were no witnesses. They couldn't cast the first stone because they would condemn themselves if they did. The Scripture says that the older ones dropped their stones first. That's because they knew the law and they broke it.

Jesus said to her that "Neither do I condemn you. Go and sin no more." He DID judge her but did not condemn her.

67 posted on 02/14/2011 9:05:48 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Daveinyork
I’m jusr a poor, unsaved, ingnorant Jew. Maybe someone can explain what your Jesus meant when he said, “He who is without sin, let him cast the first stone.”

Have you ever read the New Testament? (Most Jews I've met have not.) After telling hypocritical religious leaders ready to murder an adulterous woman, "He who is without sin, let him cast the first stone" Jesus next statement--to the woman caught in adultery, was "Go and sin no more." (book of John, Ch. 8) Jesus' mercy there, did not abrogate the sin of adultery. Christianity has never allowed or advocated sexual immorality of any kind--even while providing forgiveness after sincere repentance....

And what about all those Old Testement commandments that are no longer valid? Like eating ham? How come that is OK, but buggery is not?

(I will note that even amidst the strictest Orthodox Hasidim today, eating a ham sandwich is not seen as nearly as bad as sexual sin...just to keep things in perspective...)

As for Christians: Read Acts 15, a council of the 1st Apostles (who actually, were all Jewish) and Acts 10, where Kosher laws were suspended--on the basis of a vision from God and, Jesus' principle that "What goes into someone’s mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of their mouth, that is what defiles them.” (Matthew 15:11), all in order to reach out to the Gentiles--with the good news that faith in Jesus saves.

Since the 1st Century Christians have never followed old Jewish ceremonial laws(which we see completed in Jesus...)--of which Kosher is one of them.

However, the 10 Commandments and the basic sexual morality of ancient Judaism, Christians have endeavored to follow for 2,000 years.

95 posted on 02/14/2011 9:31:39 AM PST by AnalogReigns
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To: Daveinyork

why bring religion into it.
Everyone nearly who I know is not religious but think two men poking each others turds is sick and disgusting.

Then because they like getting off like that they now say they should have civil rights.
Will those who have no problem with their homosexual pals getting married also have a problem with consenting incest, consenting incest marriage?

Strange as it seems the left does have a problem with that but not two of the same sex which is totally against nature and how we were made


127 posted on 02/14/2011 10:06:24 AM PST by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: Daveinyork
And what about all those Old Testement commandments that are no longer valid? Like eating ham? How come that is OK, but buggery is not?

I have all but concluded that responding to this homosexual agenda promoting talking point is a fruitless endeavor because premised withing the very question itself are two things that reach out and slap all with even a cursory understanding of Christianity. The first is, whoever asks the question is without a clue regarding Christianity Old versus New Testament and one thing Jesus was all about. The second is, whoever asks the question is a leftist tool parroting leftist talking points.

I smell ozone coming from another "progressive conservative" in the near future...

158 posted on 02/14/2011 12:08:35 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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