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To: hinckley buzzard

Yes, this is the Unions fault. Ya Know, you guys are a joke. These jobs are going overseas because these corporations care more about making a buck, than they do about being American products. How the hell, do you expect an American worker to compete against a Mexican, Chinese or Malaysian worker who makes 50 dollars a freakin month, and lives in company housing. Im getting tired of the union bashing around here. Everytime a unionized company leaves an area, the Union is to blame. How about the millions of non union jobs who outsource to third world countries every year? These companies are looking for the cheapest labor they can find, and why pay a worker in the USA 12 bucks an hour when you can pay some slave over in China or down in South America 10 bucks a day.


28 posted on 02/13/2011 2:37:32 PM PST by ConservativeNewYorker (FDNY 343 NYPD 23 PAPD 37)
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To: ConservativeNewYorker

All I can tell you is that having worked in unionized plants for 40+ years, I really believe the union is a large factor in increasing costs and reducing productivity.

The sad part was was that most of the workers were brainwashed and truly believed they worked for the UAW, not the company. They saw no connection between the economic success of the company and their own compensation.


29 posted on 02/13/2011 2:51:42 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: ConservativeNewYorker

I was in a closed-shop union job for 11 years. I’ve seen the games that are played. I’ve seen the grievances over NOTHING. I’ve seen lazy bums get protected by the union while those of us with even a small amount of work ethic are told by the union to slow down and quit working so hard. I’ve seen a portion of my pay STOLEN by the union thugs to support causes in which I did not believe. I’ve been down that road - the unions are a huge problem in this country.

It is the union’s fault in a large part. It is the government’s fault in part. It is NOT the corporation’s fault - they’re just trying to stay in business while the antagonists (union and government primarily) do everything that they can to stop them.


30 posted on 02/13/2011 2:58:18 PM PST by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: ConservativeNewYorker

Not very well factually educated in American labor rates, are you? Since the Revolution, American labor was the comparitivly highest paid in the world. That is why unskilled and skilled labor flooded here. And, yet while having high labor, high local costs of building new plant, equipment, cities, transportation, we became a export super power.

Why? Business. Money. Anyone could do business, invest, make money, quicker, faster then anyplace in the world. This quick return of money, profits more than covered high labor rates. This ease and speed is now in China.

So, be ignorant, blame investors who add up socialist costs, socialist taxes, rules regulations permits fees and decide to take their money elsewhere. Money goes to where it is loved and wanted.


31 posted on 02/13/2011 3:01:24 PM PST by Leisler (Our debts are someone's profit. Follow the money, the vig.....)
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To: ConservativeNewYorker

When everyone here in America is out of work and the middleclass is reduced to the poverty level, who’s gonna buy thier corporate crap? They are who they are and who they became because of us, when there is no us there is no them! Cut your nose off inspite of your face


33 posted on 02/13/2011 3:13:30 PM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: ConservativeNewYorker

“These companies are looking for the cheapest labor they can find, and why pay a worker in the USA 12 bucks an hour when you can pay some slave over in China or down in South America 10 bucks a day.”

There is only one way to overcome this disparity between US and third-world wages - productivity. Unions are deliberately set up to impede the flexibility and adaptability required to increase productivity. They will not change their model, and we all will suffer the consequences.

If you impede one man’s freedom to hire and another man’s freedom to work wherever he can, every American is hurt.

Nobody wishes to hold those denying America our universal, God-given freedom accountable - yet.


35 posted on 02/13/2011 3:29:05 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: ConservativeNewYorker
These jobs are going overseas because these corporations care more about making a buck, than they do about being American products

That's what corporations are for, to make money for the investors. Corporate boards are answerable to the shareholders. It is their company. Corporations are not social engineering experiments. They exist solely for the purpose of making money, and always have..

39 posted on 02/13/2011 3:46:20 PM PST by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name. Want to have fun? Google your friend's names.....)
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To: ConservativeNewYorker

You seem to be a business illiterate, likely a liberal or perhaps closet progressive. Busiesses are founded to make money and do not exist to provide jobs.

Unions have degenerated into corrupt political entities that collect dues to promote a political agenda. They are a shield for those lacking the courage to take risks.

Harping on American products is sort of a joke. American love foreign made goods and by an overwhelming margin prefer them to expensive American manufactured products.


45 posted on 02/13/2011 4:00:31 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: ConservativeNewYorker

A local call center recently moved to India. Company said it was because office rent, related costs and taxes were too high. All of these people would have loved to have kept their jobs and could have done so by working at home with a phone and a computer and several I know would have taken a slight pay cut to be able to do so. Taxes are another matter. Perhaps coupling some worthwhile incentives to stay plus forfeiture of ability to sell their product or service if not based in the U.S. would cause some to reconsider.


57 posted on 02/13/2011 4:42:31 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: ConservativeNewYorker

There is no such thing as an “American” corporation, corporations don’t have borders.


69 posted on 02/13/2011 7:06:17 PM PST by dfwgator
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