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'Raw Deal': Historian makes waves with scathing look at Franklin D. Roosevelt
Los Angeles Times ^ | 02/12/2010 | Mark Z. Barabak

Posted on 02/13/2011 8:06:53 AM PST by wizkid

Reporting from Dunwoody, Ga. — For more than half a century, biographers have treated Franklin Delano Roosevelt with Rushmore-like reverence, celebrating the nation's 32nd president as a colossus who eased the agony of the Great Depression and saved democracy from Nazi Germany.

Which never sat right with historian Burton Folsom Jr.

Growing up in Nebraska, Folsom remembers, his dad, a savings and loan executive, griped about high taxes and Roosevelt's voracious ambition. FDR was dead, but his legacy — deficit spending, an activist federal government, an expansive social safety net — lived on.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: burtonfolsom; fdr; folsom; newdeal; pages; roosevelt; socialism
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To: centurion316

Thanks for the confirmation.


61 posted on 02/13/2011 10:25:28 AM PST by Michael.SF. (Going to Charlotte for the barbecue is like going to Minneapolis for the gumbo - John Reed)
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To: wizkid
Many tea partyers, for instance, speak as though the Founders favored a small, circumscribed federal government, when in fact some wanted a more powerful Washington than we have today. (James Madison proposed a national veto over state laws.)
Actually, it doesn't matter what the framers of the Constitution individually, and privately, wanted. What matters is what the people and the states ratified.
In a recent speech, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) extolled the Founding Fathers' efforts to end slavery, when they actually made inequality the law, passing legislation counting blacks as three-fifths of a person.
The federal government did not make inequality the law. It did notoverturn the inequality already existing in state law. It did not do that because it could not, and still win ratification by the southern states. As to the "three fifths of a person" canard, the slaves did not have the vote. That scandal is compounded by the fact that the Constitution even three fifths of a person's worth of congressional apportionment for each slave. The congressional apportionment derived from the slave population actually represented the free population.

Those who proudly heap contempt on those who did not give up the slaves whose service they were raised to expect as of right should consider whether they would give up the advantages which they take for granted over even Queen Victoria. Because an American secretary today would have to think long and hard before giving up all electric appliances, all mechanical transportation beside steamship and railroad, everything made of plastic, and all modern medical care which Queen Victoria did not enjoy. Life was hardly a bowl of skittles even for the favored few, back then.


62 posted on 02/13/2011 10:30:10 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (DRAFT PALIN)
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To: wizkid

No one will ever write enough bad about that dispicable anti american bastard to tell the truth!!!

The absolute worst President in my lifetime!

obama wouldn’t make a pimple on his ass in comparason to being the worst!


63 posted on 02/13/2011 10:36:05 AM PST by dalereed
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To: Ole Okie

I wasn’t around then, I am only 65 but my Grandfather and father who were, referred to him as the first Dictator of the United States and hated his guts.


64 posted on 02/13/2011 10:44:48 AM PST by Little Bill (Harry Browne is a Poofter.)
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To: Ditto

What is most interesting when you look at those county maps is that it shows how the people most affected by FDR’s tyrannical policies (in particular, his ag policies) were the ones that turned against him.

The AAA of 1934/1935 was the point at which a lot of Plains farmers started to see that FDR was a wolf wearing a sheep’s pelt. By 1940, the farmers of the Plains knew FDR had to go.

The south is what kept FDR in power. The Dixiecrats of their day, so to speak. The south was infested with FDR-like thinking - Huey Long was a guy FDR had to compete with for public opinion.


65 posted on 02/13/2011 11:17:40 AM PST by NVDave
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To: LS

Smoot-Hawley didn’t cause the crash. That’s popular economic mythology, but the data do not support it.

The crash of ‘29 was caused by the same thing as this crash, and the crash of 1873 was: imprudent lending, a web of deceit and debt between banking and financial houses... and suddenly, one day, the jig was up, the buying stopped and the selling started. All that stock that had been purchased on margin was now at risk - and as prices fell, even just a bit, margin calls started.


66 posted on 02/13/2011 11:24:12 AM PST by NVDave
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To: NVDave
The south is what kept FDR in power.

The South would never have voted for a Republican in that era. Whoever won the Democrat nomination was going to win the Southern vote period. In my hometown, the Democrat slate was published on the front page of the paper as a reminder and it wasn't a paid advertisement. The Republican slate, if there was one, never appeared in the paper. The Solid South remained so into the fifties.

67 posted on 02/13/2011 11:32:58 AM PST by centurion316
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To: Michael.SF.

You idiot. He prolonged the economic problems with his crazy leftist policies.


68 posted on 02/13/2011 12:09:50 PM PST by youngidiot (Don't let the name fool ya, toots.)
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To: Seeking the truth

Thank you.
By all means, share it with others.
I believe my grandfather would be pleased to know his words have reached another generation but, at the same time, angry and saddened that the problems against which he spoke — and worse — still afflict the nation he loved.


69 posted on 02/13/2011 12:11:29 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Thank you.


70 posted on 02/13/2011 12:12:53 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: NVDave

Nope. In fact, several studies have shown that there was very little, if any, “bubble” in the market in 1929. Other studies have shown that stocks were pretty well pegged to real asset value and or anticipated sales; that people were well informed of what stocks and bonds they were buying; and that the stocks that didn’t pay dividends were just doing what Carnegie did, reinvesting. While not overwhelmingly conclusive, taken together the bulk of the studies completely “refudiate” the Keynes/Galbraith “speculation” theory and support the Smoot-Hawley causation theory.


71 posted on 02/13/2011 12:15:59 PM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: centurion316

I know. I read it. I just thought (as did Burt) that for a drive-by journalist, it was as good as you’ll get.


72 posted on 02/13/2011 12:19:24 PM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: youngidiot
Originally you stated: "FDR caused the great depression"

Now you state: "He prolonged the economic problems with his crazy leftist policies."

So make up your mind, did he cause the depression or did he prolong something that had started two years before he was elected?

73 posted on 02/13/2011 12:30:16 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Going to Charlotte for the barbecue is like going to Minneapolis for the gumbo - John Reed)
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To: LS

That’s wonderful he’s a good friend of yours. Pass along my kudos for a tremendous book with solid research. Well done!


74 posted on 02/13/2011 12:54:35 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Cailleach

Hometown author ping


75 posted on 02/13/2011 12:54:41 PM PST by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: NVDave
The south is what kept FDR in power.

Plus the heavly unionized cities of the North.

76 posted on 02/13/2011 2:17:04 PM PST by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: wizkid

bm


77 posted on 02/13/2011 3:20:29 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: elcid1970

The Dictator was a Studebaker model. Others they made around that same time with like names were President and Commander.


78 posted on 02/16/2011 6:37:01 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: I still care
My grandmother *hated* Willkie so much that she named a key piece of the male anatomy the "Willkie Button". For many years, I thought that was the proper name for my...you get it.

Many years later, I was in an antique store and found this:

I immediately bought it. Who can say "no" to a spare Willkie Button? ;)

79 posted on 02/16/2011 6:38:08 AM PST by TankerKC (Confucius say, he who rushes to vote on bill before reading, might forget severability clause.)
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To: Michael.SF.
FDR took a depression and, using his great (grabbed) power, managed to program it into a GREAT depression.
80 posted on 02/16/2011 7:05:11 AM PST by rw4site (Little men want Big Government!)
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