Posted on 02/12/2011 6:18:30 PM PST by kristinn
Young Americans for Freedom (YAF) , a conservative libertarian group founded in 1960 at the estate of William F. Buckley, expelled Rep. Ron Paul, Texas Republican, from their advisory board on Saturday. The organization released the following statement on Saturday afternoon:
The National Board of Young Americans for Freedom (YAF)—America's oldest conservative-libertarian activist group—has, per curium, voted to purge Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) from YAF’s National Advisory Board.
YAF’s concern with Rep. Paul stems from his delusional and disturbing alliance with the fringe Anti-War movement.
“It is a sad day in American history when a one-time conservative-libertarian stalwart has fallen more out of touch with America’s needs for national security than the current feeble and appeasing administration,” said YAF’s Senior National Director Jordan Marks.
“Who would have ever thought that we would see the day when YAF was more aligned with the Obama administration than a formerly conservative Republican congressman? Rep. Paul's refusal to support our nation’s military and national security interests border on treason, aside from his failure to uphold his oath to the United States Constitution and defend our country and citizens against all enemies, foreign and domestic,” Marks continued.
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YAF National Chairman Michael Jones issued the following statement on this issue:
SNIP “Freedom and prosperity cannot peacefully exist alongside radical Islam. It is unfortunate that Ron Paul--a member of the U.S. Congress-- does not understand this. Surely, our enemies do.”
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
In a completely different vein, how many POTUS elections has paleoPaulie, the two-faced porkmeister of Galveston won? Or even primaries for POTUS? That's right. None! Ya gotta think these things through.
How many elections had the paleosurrenderman won even for Congress at Marks' age? Again, none. YAF should never have allowed Paulie on the Advisory Board to begin with. Expunging him from the Advisory Board: Better late than never.
I think that ISI has too many internal problems for my liking, but I also see that it hasn't entirely moved away from its roots. Still, "These days, ISI might as well be a collegiate adjunct of the Heritage Foundation." sure caught my attention. Great line!
Only because you eat regular! God bless you and yours!
Paul is a loon. He has a few things right, a lot of things wrong.
Bill Buckley financially supported and participated in the Tridentine Mass community of the Bridgeport, Connecticut, Diocese of the Roman Catholic Church, the one that is in communion with the Vatican and the Holy See and always has been, never in schism, never excommunicated, never bamboozled by dead Marcel, etc.
I've been around more than twenty years too and it is true that Buckley was no Goldwater. Bill was a whole lot better than Goldwater ever dreamed of being.
And likewise, there's a difference between our response to Pearl Harbor and the attacks on Iraq and Afghanistan. The 9/11 attack was a bunch of Saudis, not the state of Iraq, so I'd say that's not even comparable. In other words, it's a red-herring comparison.
Dive right in. The water’s fine! YAF is being attacked by a combo of Libtards, Paulistinians, and SSPXers. See #128 inter alia.
But hey! He won the CPAC straw poll.....
(facepalm)
And they wonder why I won’t donate..........
First off, whose poll are you referencing that shows an :overwhelming majority of libertarians" harping on anything? Would that possibly be the libertarians you are personally acquainted with?
Because, as you are probably aware, the national opinion polls studiously avoid offering a "libertarian" classification for those who choose to participate.
You're either a conservative or a liberal or a moderate. Fewer labels make the numbers come out right.
Next, paranoid delusions are symptomatic of too much coffee, alcohol and partisan activism. I would venture that there are more Democrats afflicted than Republicans, but the numbers are always changing depending on the crisis and who's to blame. You think self-identified libertarians are conspiracy mongers? LOL! We have quite a few threads right here on FR that could just as well have come from the Star or the Weekly World News for the made-up factoids that gullible FReepers take as honest-to-gosh truth!
And again we have the "anti-Semitic" accusations against Ron Paul and his supporters. I can fully understand the confusion that may exist when you see photos posted to this forum with Ron Paul shaking hands with a white supremacist (who I'm certain was not introduced to him as such) and columns by antagonists demanding his campaign (gosh, this was almost four years ago!) return donations given by members of racist, anti-Semitic groups.
But you know, Ron Paul does not have an anti-Semitic bone in his body. One of his staunchest supporters over the years was Burt Blumert, a Jew who I knew personally and thought the world of just as Dr. Paul did. Ron Paul is of course a Christian, but his faith does not affect his votes in Congress. I worry very much about politicians who seem to let their millennial longings sway their politics. Let's just say it's fine to have religious faith and not so fine to be a slave to it (and I am not thinking of rituals or customs, but more like "prophesy") when the nation's welfare is at stake.
Your last paragraph could have been written by the Rev. Phelps. Perhaps if you send it to him he'll use it?
Regards,
That's a pretty crack-pot bunch in anyone’s book.
I'm sick and tired of this BS, the war criminal crap that occurred at CPAC, the anti-war movement, and the endless harping by the fringe of society that has all attached itself to Ron Paul and the cult of personality.
Too much is too much.
‘Catholic’
Is it your impression that ‘Catholic’ is an epithet on FR?
The age limit for regular members is 40. Alumni beyond that age gravitate to Young America’s Foundation run by the formerly young folks of my aging generation of early Baby Boomers. One thing we do agree on, under or over 40, is that paleopeacecreepism is NOT conservative. And neither are Dennis Cuckjoocinich, El Run Paulie, Weepy Walter Jones, Paul Abercrombie and their collective ilk as who resist manhood in foreign and military policy.
I see by your profile that you claim Kentucky as your home, BP.
The LP of Kentucky is looking to register all of 5000 Libertarian voters, out of, what, 5 million or so? That's not even a hair on an elephant's rump.
I can say with some degree of certainty that there are well over 5000 (small-"l") libertarians in your state, and with nearly 100% certainty that you don't know half of them, or even 10%. And if the polls I've seen are anywhere close, many more Americans are "truthers" than you'd want to think. I don't happen to go along with that fantasy; however, when you have more and more revelations each and every year of government malfeasance and subsequent cover-ups, it's entirely understandable that a portion of the population goes off the deep end into conspiracy land.
Republicans are just as susceptible in their own way (e.g., 0bama is a Muslim; a new Caliphate to control the Whole World; the Trans-Texas Highway and the Amero) but we can agree, I hope, that irrational explanations for world events is not limited to any one party, nor to just this country. (I'd hate to think what the anti-Mubarak demonstrators might conjecture about our government's role in keeping that despot in power all this time. Wikileaks to the rescue!)
Well, well, well, the same sort of crowd that set their draft cards on fire at the 1969 YAF National Convention, setting off a virtual riot. Good to see that the massacre of millions in SE Asia has not opened their eyes or minds to the reality of the world we live in. For that matter the result of a firm resolve to overthrow International Communism, which they opposed, which led to more freedom for hundreds of millions in Eastern Europe has passed them without their recognition.
I cannot imagine Peoria or Pascagoula being governed by an evil and slimy SOB like Weicker but either community would gladly vote for Lieberman if they knew both of them.
There was a Buckley fundraiser for Lieberman in 1988 by a PAC called Buckleys for Lieberman. B-1 Bob Dornan was the main speaker. As you may recall, he was certainly a strong pro-lifer and no liberal on anything else. Then State Senator Tom Scott of Milford hosted the fundraiser and he was the most solidly conservative state senator of the last 40 years in Connecticut.
As I implied earlier, I was a devout NR subscriber and never missed a Buckley column for over 30 years. However, he was human after all. I recall the sympathetic coverage he provided in his column to a convict he had befriended. He was eventually paroled, then not long afterward committed another murder. Buckley was aghast.
Was WFB wrong to have written those columns? Of course not; he could not foresee what would happen.
Likewise, those who deride Ron Paul for his non-interventionism cannot in any rational way offer evidence that this country will be taken over by a lesser power 5000 miles away if we don't continue to follow a cold-war foreign policy of intervening militarily in other countries when it's in "our national interest."
On the other hand, when was the last time Switzerland was invaded? Roman times?
A rational response would be to use your own analogy as evidence. If it took a murder to convince Buckley he was wrong, then likewise it would take a coup to convince Paul that he is wrong.
Unless of course, you want to consider your analogy irrational...
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