'Egypt losing control of Sinai to Beduin'

JPost ^ | 2/13/11 | YAAKOV KATZ

[FreedomPoster]

>>I think it’s very simplistic to think that the will of the people is always consistent with what is moral and what is right.

This is at the root of why the Founders created a Republic and not a Democracy.

[OldDeckHand]

"Israel should never have given up the Sinai after the Yom Kippur War in ‘73."

I have a feeling they'll now have the opportunity to take it back in the not-to-distant future. Unfortunately.

[Art in Idaho]

Thanks for the map. Was just trying to picture it and I had it wrong. lol

I always wondered why Israel gave back the Sinai after the war with Egypt. Didn't keep up on things then, but I remember thinking it's a great buffer zone. I know this is woefully ignorant, but over time they gave up the Golan and the West Bank too?

[jackv]

Gee, no wonder the talking heads have gone quiet...

[montag813]

Here is the location of Mount Sinai: where God gave the Ten Commandments and the Five Books to Moses. Imagine the Muslims giving up such a parcel of land at ANY price - NEVER. Israel needs to take it back.

[Art in Idaho]

This may be off the wall, but why does Saudi and all the other smaller Arab states have a ton of oil and Egypt has none? Just the way it is, or inadequate exploration?

[1010RD]

Why men like Mubarak, Saddam and the Shah must rule the ME.

It isn’t that civilization has passed them by or that racists or Zionists have impoverished them, but that they completely reject civilization and prefer destruction, mayhem and death.

Their god calls for it.

[1010RD]

They can police it, though.

What Egypt needs is a Pinochet and some U of C econ grads.

There’s nothing like wealth through industry to temper a people.

[conservativeimage]

Remember in 2009 when Obama demanded Honduras reinstate Hugo Chavez’s friend Manuel Zelaya who was breaking their constitution by making himself president for life?

[Carry_Okie]

The Egyptian military has for years encountered difficulty in controlling the Beduin population, which does not hold allegiance to the Egyptian government in Cairo.

The Bedouin were there before there was an Egypt.

[griswold3]

I agree with you. There just aren’t the institutions in place there that are able to promote democracy or even ‘mobocracy’. The coming chaos will get pretty bad. Pretty soon they’ll welcome a system any system that can achieve a semblence of normalcy. Can you say ‘Shiria’? I thought you could.

[conservativeimage]

'mobocracy'

When will MuBarack be forced to resign?

[Elsiejay]

So is the Sinai peninsula no man’s land; not part of Israel and the Egyptian Army cannot go there?

[raygun]

Whatchya mean, Willis? What could possibly go wrong?

Every talking head I've taken the grueling-effort to watch is positively giddy, i.e., gushing, about how benign events have proven to be; must be why Perky-Catie and Ms. Amanpour BOTH left in such hurry.

I was commenting to my most steadfast loyal audience the other day; I said, "Self: no good will come of this."

NONE, that is, unless somebody records these putative "un-biased" media-pundits - in lieu of journalism - reports for posterity so as to document how prominently they all wear their opininions on their journalistic sleeves, cuffs, and / or bell-bottoms.

WHY would this be an issue if the press is forcused instead on the "FIRST snowflake of the BLIZZARD of 20011"!!!!! THE FIRST SNOWFLAKE - ZOOM IN ON THAT SUCKER Zack, ZOOM INTO THE FIRST SNOWFLAKE, oh, WAIT, there's ANOTHER ONE!

I'll NOT deny that I'm jaded, but where have you seen reported in the main stream media that ObamaCare has been ruled: unconstitutional.

[Errant]

I know this is woefully ignorant, but over time they gave up the Golan and the West Bank too?

I believe that Israel only controls a little over half of the Golan Heights and the West Bank is divided up into about 3 sections IIRC. Each of these sections of the West Bank have different civil control structures with Israel playing a larger or lesser role in governance depending upon the section.

[Errant]

Israel needs to take it back.

No doubt they will if Egypt fails to honor their 30 year peace treaty.

[Art in Idaho]

Thanks for the clarification. Israel is indeed going it alone. Sometimes hard to believe the change in the foreign policy climate: diss the Brits, lukewarm to the French, love the Muzzies, abandon Israel, diss Mubarack, try and reinstall Zelaya, back buddy Chavez and Fidel. . . is there a pattern here? : )

2012!!

[AU72]

So is the Sinai peninsula no man’s land; not part of Israel and the Egyptian Army cannot go there?

It's close to a DMZ. Egypt can only bring over a very limited number of military. I think about a brigade and some anti-aircraft.

[cva66snipe]

Here is the location of Mount Sinai: where God gave the Ten Commandments and the Five Books to Moses. Imagine the Muslims giving up such a parcel of land at ANY price - NEVER. Israel needs to take it back.

Likely not the true Mt Sinai location but I agree Israel should have held on to it. Mt Sinai is more likely located in Saudi Arabia Mt Sinai

The problem with the traditional site is several. One being even then that would have had Israel still in Egypt as the Sinai even then was part of Egypt. Another problem is space. Not big enough for the twelve tribes at the traditional site. The crossing at the Strait of Tiran where the Gulf of Aqaba narrows makes sense. I've looked at some satellite photos of the area where it is believed Israel crossed and it too makes sense specially with a Divine Miracle to part the waters at that point. A forty year wilderness stint in Saudi Arabia also makes more sense. Moses was not a stranger to that area but Israel was.

[Verginius Rufus]

As a buffer zone, the Sinai is only useful in case of an attack coming from Egypt. Sadat was willing to make a separate peace with Israel in order to get the Sinai back and the Israelis gambled that it would be worth it. So far it has paid off--Egypt has not been part of the equation in any conflicts since the peace treaty was made.

The Israelis gave back a portion of the Golan Heights but I think they still have most of it. Parts of the West Bank are under the administration of the Palestinian Authority but there are still a lot of Israeli settlements there.