Posted on 02/12/2011 4:33:54 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
Ron Paul has pulled off a reapeat, winning the CPAC presidential straw poll once again with 30 percent of the vote.
Mitt Romney finished second with 23 percent ... Newt Gingrich at 5 percent; Tim Pawlenty, Michelle Bachmann and Mitch Daniels at 4 percent, Sarah Palin at 3 percent, and everybody else at 2 percent or less.
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Yep, "you can murder in this state, but not in this one, the majority says so."
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Huh? Are you denying that prior to Roe V. Wade abortion laws varied from state to state? That was the way it was done...I'm not sure what you're saying.
Hank
As I recall, she did good in her debate. The debate wasn’t supposed to showcase Palin’s ability to tear Obama up.
Palin was really really strong going up there and making speeches with effective funny mocking lines tearing up Obama.
McCain’s argument seemed to include “well Obama’s great, but I too exist”. Palin did seem to understand reminding everyone how great Obama was because of fear of being called racist was not an effective strategy for victory. Didn’t really work too well at not being called racist.
Comparing Paul and Palin here, Palin will likely take it direct to Obama, and Paul could, but has a tendency to not ignore things Republicans did to make things worse. Republicans do not like to hear from Republicans that things that Republicans do can make things worse. Paul talks about those things more than Republicans like. The amount of that Palin does is just right for Republicans.
CPAC is a dead letter. Nobody cares.
That might be the dumbest post this year. If you don't know what side she's on then your judgment is in doubt. Maybe come election day you should just stay in and do your nails.
Go look up "oxymoron" in the dictionary.
You’re are correct.
Bush I said “no new taxes” and went on and raised taxes.
Conservatives said no thanks, and realized that Reagan and Bush were not the same. Reagan was Conservative and Bush was Not. And they voted Bush I out.
Bush II understood that he had to pretend to be a Conservative, and understood that “no new taxes” caused his dad a victory in 92. But he had his own statement to make “no nation building”.
Which he then went on to ignore.
SarahPAC did not boycott.
Palin would’ve been helped if FreeRepublic did what it could to get some votes for Sarah.
Here's a couple of things that I'm saying Hank:
First from David Barton of Wallbuidlers:
"ECHOES OF 1860: IS “LIFE“ A QUESTION OF STATE’S RIGHTS?
Some voices naively assert that simply eradicating abortion at the federal level and returning the issue to the states will correct the problem, but they are completely wrong. When the federal courts get out of the abortion issue and return it to the states, 20 states (based on both pro-life and pro-abortion estimates) will continue their current abortion practices, and those states include many with the largest population (e.g., California, New York, Illinois, etc.). Citizens from the other 30 states will therefore travel to one of those 20 states to get an abortion; so while the number of abortions will undoubtedly go down when the issue is returned to the states, it will come nowhere close to ending. Additionally, stopping abortion at the federal level will do nothing to correct the legal rulings generated in the state courts over the past 35 years as those state courts infused federal court positions into their own state case law. State courts will remain hostile to state attempts to restrict abortion because state case law is now as infused with the broad “health” exceptions, etc., as were the federal decisions."
Link to Wallbuilders
And next this piece of information:
U.S. Abortion History
The 200-year history of abortion in America goes back way beyond 1973.
Page Summary:
For those who support abortion, there is a tendency to argue that it has always been widely practiced and broadly accepted. Those who oppose abortion, however, generally argue that its permissive and widespread use is a recent phenomena. The truth probably lies somewhere in between.
The History of Abortion in the United States
1859: The American Medical Association (AMA) condemns abortion except as necessary to preserve the life of either the mother or child (?)
1875: Every state in the United States has adopted laws banning abortion.
1916: Margaret Sanger forms the Birth Control League (now Planned Parenthood) to promote contraception and abortion.
1959: The American Law Institute (ALI) proposes the "Model Penal Code" urging that abortion be performed in licensed hospitals when necessary to preserve the mental or physical health of the mother or in cases of rape or incest.
1965: Griswold v. Connecticut. Supreme Court hands down decision that legalizes contraception and defines the "right to privacy."
1967: Colorado becomes the first state to allow abortion for cases of rape, incest or threat to the mother's life. 1970: Fourteen states were allowing abortion in certain circumstances.
1973: Roe v. Wade. Stating that a constitutional "right to privacy" exists that protects a woman's decision to have an abortion, the U.S. Supreme Court legalizes abortion on demand. The Court permits states to outlaw abortions from viability until birth (third trimester) except when necessary to preserve the mother's life or health. Norma McCorvey
1973: Doe v. Bolton. The Supreme Court defines "health" (of the mother) to include all factors - physical, emotional, psychological, familial and the woman's age. This basically allows a woman to have an abortion at any time during her pregnancy and for any reason.
1976: Planned Parenthood Association of Central Missouri v. Danforth. A Missouri abortion law, requiring the consent of parents in the case of minors, and husbands in the case of a married woman, is ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.
1992: Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pennsylvania v. Casey. This decision outlaws any restrictions that "impose an undue burden" on a woman's "right" to an abortion. 1993: President Bill Clinton signs five executive orders into effect, allowing fetal tissue research and harvesting, RU486 research, abortion counseling in federally funded family planning clinics and abortion services in U.S. military hospitals.
1994: President Clinton signs into law the Freedom of Access to Clinics Entrance Act (FACE), which inhibits the first amendment rights of pro-lifers to peacefully protest, demonstrate and provide sidewalk counseling at abortion clinics. Joe Scheidler
2000: Stenberg v. Carhart. On a 5-4 decision, the Supreme Court declared that Nebraska's partial birth abortion law unconstitutionally placed an undue burden on a woman's so-called right to a late term abortion.
Link to US Abortion History
And last and most importantly Hank: Ron Paul as shown in his support for homosexuality, is basing his legislating not on God's laws, but on the Libertarian belief that man is sovereign over his own body and can do with it as he or she pleases. When you have ideology like that, it's difficult to ever "abolish" abortion.
FreeRepublic.com did officially join the boycott of CPAC.
Yes, Sherlock. No need to be hostile.
I’m not a guy, by the way.
I am simply saying that feminists are wrong, you really can’t “do it all,” without sacrificing something, making choices.
In this case, she (Palin) has a very large family to supervise.
People need to make choices. Sara Palin has chosen a huge family, which means less time to devote to developing other skills and other types of knowledge needed to run a country successfully.
You sound like a liberal feminist, BTW. What are you on Free Republic? ;)
Being behind liberal lines, you’ve obviously become brilliant. I think Ithaca has stolen your brain. Just take a gander at the prescient 2007 CPAC straw poll and see what they predicted. *Snickering*: http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/cpac_straw_poll/
Take a look at the list of winners of CPAC straw polls since 1976. Tthey got a couple of candidates right (Reagan in 1980 and 1984, Bush in 2000), though they picked the wrong candidate much more often, demonstrating that the CPAC straw poll isn’t a good indicator of which candidate will really win the nomination and presidency. As for Tim Pawlenty, Michelle Bachmann, and Mitch Daniels only getting 1% more votes than Sarah (who didn’t embrace the CPACers with her presence nor offered to host a party and buy a drink for the 11,000 attendees like Michele Bachmann did), this event isn't a big deal at all and will most likely be forgotten by next weekend.
1976 Ronald Reagan
1980 Ronald Reagan
1984 Ronald Reagan
1986 Jack Kemp
1987 Jack Kemp
1993 Jack Kemp
1995 Phil Gramm
1998 Steve Forbes
1999 Gary Bauer
2000 George W. Bush
2005 Rudy Giuliani
2006 George Allen
2007 Mitt Romney
2008 Mitt Romney
2009 Mitt Romney
2010 Ron Paul
2011 Ron Paul
Keep your friemds close, and keep your enemies closer.
Keene won’t be missed.
I hope Al Cardenas fixes up that organisation.
And doesn’t make it worse.
ACU gets to pick which votes they will count for their scores, and sometimes they even give double weight to some scores. I don’t think that ACU ratings are very helpful in determining whether a particular congressman became more or less conservative from one year to the next, alhtough they certainly are helpful when comparing one Democrat to another Democrat and one Republican to another Republican in one particular year (or, even better, over 3 or 4 years).
Personally, I like to use 6 different ratings, 3 from conservative groups and 3 from liberal groups (with the scored from liberal groups inverted so that a 10 ADA scoure is a 90 conservative score), and come up with a conservative percentage:
ACU rating
+
Club for Growth rating
+
Family Research Council rating
+
100 - ADA rating
+
100 - AFSCME rating
+
100 - LCV rating
and then divide the sum by 600.
Ron Paul. LOL
Utter bullcrap. "Back in the kitchen where you belong woman...!"
That’s correct. The general police power belongs to the states, not to the federal government.
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