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Race Motivated Firing of a White Woman, Court Says
Courthouse News Service ^ | February 10, 2011 | JOE CELENTINO

Posted on 02/11/2011 8:56:11 AM PST by epithermal

CHICAGO (CN) - After a white employee for the city park district reported a possible incident of child abuse involving a black child and his aunt, her employer committed race discrimination by firing her, the 7th Circuit found.

(Excerpt) Read more at courthousenews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 2manylawyers; racism; vick
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"In the case at hand, the federal appeals court determined that a racist employee need not exercise "singular influence" over the firing decision for a Title VII claim to be valid. Employers can also be held liable for lesser degrees of influence."

I'm not a lawyer, but doesn't this set a dangerous precedent?

1 posted on 02/11/2011 8:56:20 AM PST by epithermal
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To: epithermal

The lesson is: Don’t fire the token white lady.


2 posted on 02/11/2011 9:01:14 AM PST by Dan(9698)
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"The lesson is: Don’t fire the token white lady."

(ahem) Either that or 'act White' when she's around?

3 posted on 02/11/2011 9:04:59 AM PST by blam
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To: epithermal

>>I’m not a lawyer, but doesn’t this set a dangerous precedent?<<

Interesting question — what do you forsee as such a precedent?


4 posted on 02/11/2011 9:04:59 AM PST by freedumb2003 (The TOTUS-reader is a Judas Goat, leading the American sheeple to the slaugherhouse /Parmy)
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The worst thing that could happen to liberal black people is to have this firing upheld. Of course, that’s exactly what they’ll cheer for, until it starts happening to them.


5 posted on 02/11/2011 9:05:13 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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CHICAGO: I'm surprised they didn't accuse her of being a white racist and firing her on that basis.

Adams, who is also black, explained the aunt's actions as "a cultural thing," saying "this is the way we discipline children in our culture." Adams told Schandelmeier that she had once tried to hit her daughter with a belt but hit the wall instead, and her daughter still screamed.

A jury said Schandelmeier's firing was racially motivated and awarded the woman $200,000. But an Illinois federal judge reversed...

6 posted on 02/11/2011 9:06:17 AM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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People already get fired for racial discrimination. How is this a dangerous precedent?


7 posted on 02/11/2011 9:08:25 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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I wonder if a welt magically appeared on her daughter’s arm like JJ’s.

“J.J. had a welt on his arm and was crying.”


8 posted on 02/11/2011 9:11:06 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: BenLurkin

So it sounds like she gets $30,000 four or five years after losing her job. I hope she found something else in the meantime.


9 posted on 02/11/2011 9:12:04 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: freedumb2003

I am wondering what a “lesser degree of influence” would mean legally? From the article:

“”The Supreme Court has not yet resolved the circumstances under which an employer may be held liable based on the discriminatory intent of employees who influence but do not actually make the ultimate employment decision,” Judge Daniel Hamilton wrote for the court’s three-judge panel.”

Imagine you are an employer and lay off a person based on complaints, racial or otherwise, from an employee about another employee. I would say you would have to be very certain of the circumstances before firing anyone or face the liability.


10 posted on 02/11/2011 9:13:07 AM PST by epithermal
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Adams, who is also black, explained the aunt's actions as "a cultural thing," saying "this is the way we discipline children in our culture."
Oh yeah, that black culture thing has been REAL successful.
11 posted on 02/11/2011 9:14:35 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: driftdiver

Maybe Eric Holder will appeal this to the Supreme Court (if he has standing to get involved) to avoid setting a precedent that laws against racial discrimination can be applied on behalf of a white person. The Department of Justice believes that only racial minorities are supposed to benefit from such laws.


12 posted on 02/11/2011 9:16:03 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Dan(9698)

What’s holder had to say about this? Has the fired lady been arrested yet?


13 posted on 02/11/2011 9:22:02 AM PST by RobinOfKingston (An election is not a (national) suicide pact.)
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To: oh8eleven
That pitiful excuse was tried by Mike Vick, too.


14 posted on 02/11/2011 9:22:17 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine (I'm shocked! Shocked to find out that gambling is going on in here!)
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I would not read a lot into this case, and it is certainly no watershed event in the field of discrimination law.

The trial judge had overruled the jury's finding that the firing was discriminatory. That is not unheard of, but it is not usual. That fact gave the Court of Appeals some latitude to delve into the facts itself, which is something appellate courts ordinarily can't do and don't do.

The appellate court then reinstated the jury's verdict but cut the award from $200,000 to $30,000. That's a polite way of saying, "Just because we thought the trial judge was wrong doesn't mean we thought the jury was right."

I don't believe you will see this opinion cited very often in future cases.

15 posted on 02/11/2011 9:25:25 AM PST by blau993
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"Adams, who is also black, explained the aunt's actions as "a cultural thing," saying "this is the way we discipline children in our culture."

Ah, yes...the Michael Vick defense!

16 posted on 02/11/2011 9:25:40 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Actually, DOJ believes only ‘black’, as in American Negro, persons can be allowed to benefit from racial descrimination suits. They don’t need any unnecessary competition for the dollars, or the tears. WAAAAAA !!! The ultimate whiner mentality at work.


17 posted on 02/11/2011 9:28:32 AM PST by arrdon (Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.)
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Adams, who is also black, explained the aunt's actions as "a cultural thing," saying "this is the way we discipline children in our culture." Adams

I guess I'm old enough to have been "raised black".


18 posted on 02/11/2011 9:28:40 AM PST by Polybius
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>>Imagine you are an employer and lay off a person based on complaints, racial or otherwise, from an employee about another employee. I would say you would have to be very certain of the circumstances before firing anyone or face the liability.<<

Having been an employer, that has been true forever. And there isn’t hard and fast guidance from the courts either. This case doesn’t appear to provide much more guidance, either. It seems to be narrowly framed.


19 posted on 02/11/2011 9:32:01 AM PST by freedumb2003 (The TOTUS-reader is a Judas Goat, leading the American sheeple to the slaugherhouse /Parmy)
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Has the fired lady been arrested yet?

The story doesn't say.

20 posted on 02/11/2011 9:33:22 AM PST by Dan(9698)
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