Posted on 02/10/2011 11:43:18 AM PST by davidosborne
No link to this Breaking News.. Obama trying to appear to be control by saying the Young People are crying out for democracy when it looks more like a Military taking power OUTSIDE the framework of the Egyptian Constitutional framwork..
Obama: History is unfolding in Egypt
Amid reports that Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak will resign when he speaks on state television later Thursday, President Barack Obama addressed the developing situation, saying, “We are witnessing history unfold.”
Speaking in Michigan Thursday afternoon, Obama revealed no new details about the apparent transition of power, saying only that the White House is “following events in Egypt very closely” and vowing that “America will continue to do everything we can to support an orderly and genuine transition to democracy in Egypt.”
Military officials in Egypt have told several media outlets that they have taken power and that Mubarak will indeed announce he is stepping down. The military has been meeting throughout the day Thursday without the president in the room — a sign that he is on the way out.
A military spokesman said forces had taken control to “what measures and arrangements could be made to safeguard the nation, its achievements and the ambitions of its great people,” CNN reported.
The takeover is “not a coup” but a consensus, a military official told CNN. Nonetheless, the military said it is operating “outside constitutional authority.”
Egypt’s information minister, meanwhile, is denying that Mubarak is stepping down.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/49248.html#ixzz1DaS3Esag
OK so Egyptian Hope & Change = military take-over.
What...will be American Hope & Change, going forward...?
UNSETTLING...
I saw this idiot mugging for the crowd before his speech as though he was going to give a talk about the Superbowl instead of a serious foreign policy issue.
How can ANYBODY take this Marxist professor seriously?
I like military coups. I wish we’d hav-er, never mind.
The military running things post-Mubarak is eminently preferable to the Muslim Brotherhood or their sock puppet El-Baradei doing so.
Obama hasn’t a clue.
Not sure why this was pulled from the Breaking news sidebar... IF the military takes power it is by definition a coup... It appears to me that the Egyptian PEOPLE are demanding that Mubarak step down.. PERIOD.. their constitution has a process in place for what is to happen when a President steps down and the Military taking over is NOT it.... Rush pointed this out a few minutes ago and I think it deserves some discussion on FR... am I the only one who thinks so?
The issue is IMHO the CONSTITUTION should prevail.. if their Constitution calls for the dog catcher in chief to become President than so be it.... in either case a new election is to take place within 60days correct?
Contrast him with Reagan, who worked these issues quietly through back channels. Obama, as is the case with every other issue, just can't manage to STFU.
From Wiki:
In the case of temporary incapacitation of the president, the constitution provides the president to relinquish his powers to a vice-president. If there is no vice president in-office, the prime minister takes office. However the person who takes office is limited in power as the new president can not dissolve the parliament, propose constitutional amendments or remove the cabinet from office.
In case of the vacancy of the presidential office or the permanent incapacitation of the president, the speaker of the People’s Assembly shall temporarily assume the presidency. In case the People’s Assembly is dissolved at such a time the chief justice of the Supreme Constitutional Court shall take over the presidency on condition that neither shall nominate himself for the presidency. Both are also limited in power as in they can not dissolve the parliament, remove the cabinet, propose constitutional amendments.
The People’s Assembly shall then proclaim the vacancy of the office of president, and a new president shall be chosen within a maximum period of sixty days form the date of the vacancy of the office.
Although, the constitution does not directly stipulate any role for the vice-president in the process of presidential succession, It had become a tradition for the People’s Assembly to nominate the vice-president for the vacant office of the president. Both Sadat and Mubarak served as vice-presidents at the time the presidential office became vacant, however on Mubarak’s succession in 1981 as president he did not appoint a vice-president until 29 January 2011 when during substantial protests demanding reforms he appointed Omar Suleiman to the role.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_Fathi_Sorour
Ahmad Fathi Sorour (born 9 July 1932) is an Egyptian politician who has been the speaker of the People’s Assembly since 1991. According to Article 84 of the Egyptian Constitution Ahmad Fathi Sorour, as speaker of the People’s Assembly, is first in the order of succession to become President of Egypt if Mubarak dies, becomes incapacitated, or resigns.[1]
Dr. Sorour has been Speaker of the People’s Assembly since November 1990, and was first elected a member of that body in April 1989. He was President of the Inter-Parliamentary Council in 1994–1997 and also served as President of the Union of African Parliaments in 1990–1991.
I could care less about their constitution or what it says or if its scrupulously followed. The ONLY concern is stability with no Islamist group calling the shots.
The army in charge bodes better for that outcome than any election the jihadis could stack or subvert, just as the PA elected Hamas.
Stability in the region, the continued unimpeded traffic through the Suez Canal, and non-aggression towards Israel trumps all other concerns.
Mubarak may have been a dictator, but he belonged to us and was bought and paid for. We should have backed him to the hilt.
So the Rule of Law is not important? We may not like it but we should support the rule of law IMHO.. unless WE invade and take over.. at which time it would be MARTIAL LAW as we dictate it... I don’t see the 2nd happening.. so we should be supporting the rule of law even if we don’t like it...
first RUSH now Hannity... it sure looks like this is what is happening here... RULE OF LAW trumps everything IMHO !
I care about the rule of law here, and our Constitution as well.
In the turd world krapistans however, I just want those in power who’ll do as we tell them. No matter what the circumstances.
You have to be pragmatic about these things. Its bliss-ninny idealism that will wreck everything.
Please put this thread back on the Breaking News Sidebar.. I think this is the KEY point of discussion at the moment..
The only moral authority that we have is the fact that WE DEMAND THE RULE OF LAW... In the United States AND abroad ! Of course if we decide to take out a foreign government we OWN the problem and have an obligation to return that country back to the people of that country in a deliberate process... it is the PEOPLE of Egypt that are responsible for their country.. to the extent that we the people of the United States and our allies “allow it” to be so... like or not we ARE still the leader of the FREE WORLD !
Look, that’s the kind of namby-pamby thinking that lets these Islamists, (and they ALL are), come after us.
Personally we should have nuked Mecca and Medina and sent a Tomahawk cruise missile through the front door of al-Aqsa mosque on 9/12/01.
I could care less if the rest of the world loves us, I’d rather they fear us and do as they’re told.
“You can get more with a kind word and a gun than you do with just a kind word.”
-Al Capone
BTTT
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.