Posted on 02/09/2011 3:09:10 AM PST by broken_arrow1
It was the Congressional version of never count your chickens before they're hatched.
And when you do on Capitol Hill, you can sometimes lose a vote.
The newly-minted House Republican leadership botched a vote Tuesday night when it presumed it had the necessary support to reauthorize the Patriot Act, the anti-terrorism law imposed after September 11th.
The GOP expected little trouble with the bill. So Republicans brought the Patriot Act to the floor under a special procedure that requires a two-thirds vote for passage. It's a maneuver that's typically reserved for non-controversial legislation or bills that carry wide support.
Renewing that Patriot Act had certainly had wide support. 277 members voted in favor of the measure compared to just 148 nays.
But that's short of the two-thirds supermajority. Which means the House defeated the bill.
With 425 members voting, 284 yea votes were necessary to cross the two-thirds threshold for passage. 26 Republicans voted against renewing the law.
Democrats opposed to the Patriot Act were gleeful at the GOP miscalculation.
"Look at the ‘Don't Tread on Me flag.' It doesn't say don't tread on me, but it's okay if you spy," said Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), one of the most ardent opponents of the Patriot Act. "What the Republican leadership didn't count on is that they have some new members who are freshmen who are conservative, libertarian, who really do believe in civil liberties."
Eight Republicans whom the GOP regards as freshmen voted against the reauthorization. That's precisely the number of yea votes Republicans needed to pass the bill.
House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-MD) used to set the schedule when Democrats were in the majority and is familiar with floor meltdowns like the one Tuesday night.
But despite the misstep, Republicans blamed Democrats for the defeat.
(Excerpt) Read more at politics.blogs.foxnews.com ...
Not again ? What is it with you Neocons and coprophilia..?
Call an Admin - I didn’t find it necessary to use profanity - I am not muslim - I believe in ONE GOD. And our beloved Jefferson fought the British and they threatened to “Hang him until nearly dead and then pull his entrails from his body and burn them in front of him” - Nice, huh?
If you recall with such clarity the Barrbary Pirates ( who were paid bribes by the British BTW)
- Why do you forget the BRITISH themselves?
They burned our white house to the ground in the war of 1812!!!
Too funny.
Getting desparate I see...
Al-Taqiyya
“They were muslims who captured, tortured, killed, raped, and pillaged anyone they could.”
And STILL are...
But hey...lets not survail their muzzy asses...
Go ahead and spy on terrorists. I don’t have a problem with that.
Leave citizens alone unless you have a warrant.
Not again ? What is it with you Neocons and coprophilia..?
That’s it?.....that’s all you got?
You think if you say neo-con a few times it’s like magic or something?
So if you arent a muslim you are somthing worse....a jihad apologist...
I’m thinking you are simply lying to infidals....which is allowed...Al-Taqiyya.
I’m also tinking we should reform the Kights Templar...
See DD and I might be kicking each other in the shins....
But we’d put that aside in the face of a greater threat...
Islam.
We simply disagree on the best way to go about it...
Go ahead and spy on terrorists. I don’t have a problem with that.
Leave citizens alone unless you have a warrant.
That statement proves you dont know what the FISA court is or how the patriot act effected FISA.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2194/is_6_72/ai_105477700/
Go ahead and spy on terrorists. I don’t have a problem with that.
Leave citizens alone unless you have a warrant.
damn...forgot this point...
And what happens when the “terrorsts” are “citizens”???
You know...sudden jihad syndrome...
well gee....you write up a law to be able to get FISA approval to gather intel on a citizen.
Might even call it...the patriot act...
“And what happens when the “terrorsts” are “citizens”???”
get a warrant, pretty simple
Godfroi de Bouillon was received by Sufi Mystics in the Holy Land - Why else were they surpessed along with the Cathars by Papal Decree- They had received the secret of secrets - along with a great deal of other knowledge gleaned from the arab world-
but I wouldn't suspect you would know anything of the true Templar doctrine - other than mere conjecture - am I incorrect?
Your faith in the Federal Government is truly inspiring.
Go to the airport, Crim - and give yourself a PAT DOWN!
To: Crim
I support the Knights Templar - They learned from our Islamic brethren.
Godfroi de Bouillon was received by Sufi Mystics in the Holy Land - Why else were they surpessed along with the Cathars by Papal Decree- They had received the secret of secrets - along with a great deal of other knowledge gleaned from the arab world-
but I wouldn’t suspect you would know anything of the true Templar doctrine - other than mere conjecture - am I incorrect?
I know they put plenty of muslims to the sword....I call that a good start.
Your faith in the Federal Government is truly inspiring.
Your pimpimg for islam is truly pethetic.
I quit flying when they quit letting people smoke.
C’mon johnny jihad.....you can do better than that...
Here’s your head. What’s your hurry?
Here’s your head. What’s your hurry?
Behold the power of bacon!
The Templars you mean? - I am their votary. They were FRENCH - did you know? Did you study french in school? Maybe you can learn it.
Pape Clément! Le roi Philippe! En un an, je vous appeler à un tribunal devant le siège de jugement de Dieu, d'où vous aurez le châtiment que vous méritez! Damned! Damned! Tous les damnés jusqu'à la treizième génération de vos races!
damné!
hate it when the translation software glitches
“There where french”
No shit sherlock.
“Pope Clement! King Philippe! In one year, I to call you with a court in front of the seat of judgement of God, d’ where you will have the punishment which you deserve! Damned! Damned! All damnés the jusqu’ with the thirteenth generation of your races!”
One of their most famous victories was in 1177 during the Battle of Montgisard....where some 500 Templar knights helped to defeat Saladin’s army of more than 26,000 soldiers......
Meaning even the frenchy frenchmen can kick some muzzy ass....
Look ma, no translate program.
call me - we'll go have lunch in a french resto and I'll order for you.
SALADIN - you say ? Did you say his name?
He was known to those in Europe as A GREAT MAN !! He introduced Chivalry to the Knights of Europe: Behold: :
Saladin was a strict adherent of Sunni Islam and a mystical disciple of the Qadiri Sufi order.[5] His chivalrous behavior was noted by Christian chroniclers, especially in the accounts of the siege of Kerak in Moab, and despite being the nemesis of the Crusaders he won the respect of many of them, including Richard the Lionheart; rather than becoming a hated figure in Europe, he became a celebrated example of the principles of chivalry.
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