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Homosexuality is unnatural. It is destructive to the body and causes disease. It goes against Natural Law Theory which is what our legal system is founded on. It should never have been taken off of the APA list of disorders where it sat for centuries.

It is a learned behavior and encourages child abuse. Primitive societies that promote the behavior have lots of it and the ones that discourage it...have little of it. Look at the homosexual Afghanis who sodomize their boys and dress them as girls. They do it because they were sodomized by men when they were boys. It has gone on for centuries as it did in Greece and Rome until Christianity was the paradigm of Western Civilization. It is sick behavior because it is the perversion of nature and it is caused by child abuse—either rape or emotional demeaning of the sexual identity of the child in formative years.

Where are the homosexual animals in nature? But of course, you can make animals homosexual in perverse situations in captivity like they did to penguins and Rhesus monkeys. (Although the penguin dumped the male for a female later. Monkeys that were denied maternal care ended up as anti-social, killing others of its kind and unable to procreate...practicing only abnormal homosexual sex. There is abundant proof that it is abnormal, learned behavior. There is no “gay” gene.


47 posted on 02/09/2011 1:22:41 AM PST by savagesusie
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I think it is a fairly complicated phenomena which defies simple explanations. There's probably a psychosocial/psychosexual explanation as well as a biological explanation as well as environmental components. It's probably not possible to boil it down to a root cause as much as we would like to but I really do think Freud was onto something in Totem and Taboo with the aboriginal tribesmen and their cultural taboo prohibitions; specifically, the transmissability of what they considered to be "demonic influences" through taboo violations. Monkey see, monkey do especially if the monkey is somewhat ambivalent to begin with.
51 posted on 02/09/2011 3:09:30 AM PST by RC one
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To: savagesusie
Homosexuality is unnatural. It is a learned behavior

I spent the day thinking about your posts. I think you're mostly wrong. Your wrongness all stems from your assumption that the homosexual can choose to be heterosexual. I do not believe that homosexuality is a choice. You may choose to repress your orientation but you can not change your orientation. The only person who would consider it a choice is a person who was actually a homosexual in denial.

By asserting otherwise you are creating the ambivalence that leads to the destructive thought processes and actions in the minds of conflicted homosexuals. What's worse, much worse, is that you have taken a person who is incapable of changing and told him/her that the doors to God's mercy, forgiveness and salvation are closed to them forever. That's the ultimate sin IMO. Your starting, in the name of God, an unwinnable war against God. Nothing constructive will come from that, quite the opposite.

Ultimately, I think I was much closer to the truth than you when I discussed the various aspects of taboo prohibitions, violations, and consequences. This is what has lead to the increased incidence of homosexuality in western society which is, really, nothing more than humans seeking simple sexual gratification (which is what we are biologically inclined to do) and no longer fearing any divine consequences. You can fight it but you can't stop it and, the harder you resist it, the more destructive it will become to society.

This all goes back to another Freud text, "the Future of an Illusion" where Freud discusses what will happen (psychosocially) when it becomes increasingly apparent to mankind that there are no divine consequences, IOW, what happens when the fear of God disappears. According to Freud, God is an "external" coercive force. Once this force disappears, only a strong internal rationalization for repressing the Id will prevent the kind of psychosocial deviations that are becoming increasingly prevalent throughout societies. according to Freud, it was absolutely inevitable that the external coercive influence of God would wane and man would be woefully unprepared to deal with it. You might call this, the dawning of the age of Aquarius.

89 posted on 02/10/2011 9:47:51 PM PST by RC one
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